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    <title>topic Pro-10 Black is not neutral black (Not as black as Pro-100) in Professional Photo Printers</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Pro-10-Black-is-not-neutral-black-Not-as-black-as-Pro-100/m-p/260083#M6445</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just purchased a Pro-10 after returning a newly bought Pro-100 in favour of having longer photo durability and getting all that extra black and white advertised features. It turns out no matter what paper I use, what media type I choose, what Color Mode I choose &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I cannot get absolute black on Pro-10&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Things I have tried:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1- 4" by 6", letter and 13" by 19" (A3+).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2- Matte paper, photo luster pro, glossy.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3- &lt;EM&gt;Perceptive&lt;/EM&gt; vs &lt;EM&gt;Relative Colorimetric&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4- Use &lt;EM&gt;ICC Profile&lt;/EM&gt; vs &lt;EM&gt;Pro Mode&lt;/EM&gt; vs &lt;EM&gt;Black &amp;amp; White&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5-&lt;EM&gt; Standard &lt;/EM&gt;vs&lt;EM&gt; High Quality&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6-&lt;EM&gt; Borderless &lt;/EM&gt;vs&lt;EM&gt; Bordered&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;7- Also tried "Print margins as black". Which is basically pure black on Pro-100 but not pure black on Pro-10&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;8- I have tried photos that are simply RGB = 0, 0, 0. No shades or Camera fed blacks but absolute black.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;9- Tried printing from my phone as well as my PC.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;10- Head alignment, nozzle check and other generic stuff a customer representative would ask (Did you try unplugging it and plug it black? Did you uninstall and reinstall drivers?)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In all of my tests, Pro-10 produces a color on top of the black color. It is almost like the old days where the LCDs couldn't get very black while LEDs were doing perfect blacks. I contacted Canon and they suggested that I should create my own ICC profile by purchasing a printer calibrator hardware. This is unrealistic. I got a Pro-100 and right out of the box it was giving me the black color without any tweaks or issues.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Another thing I noticed is that Pro-10 is significantly slower to print when compared to Pro-100 and it drinks Photo Black so much faster. With the equal amount of prints I have done on both Pro-10 and Pro-100 for the identical photos / settings, the Pro-100's black went down by about 10% while the Pro-10 is almost at half!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please be as specific as possible as you can without asking generic questions such as monitor calibration etc (already mentioned it's rgb=0,0,0) :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is it possible to get black color on Canon's Pro Luster when using Pro-10 that is as dark as Pro-100's ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 01:07:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>aram</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-11-28T01:07:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Pro-10 Black is not neutral black (Not as black as Pro-100)</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Pro-10-Black-is-not-neutral-black-Not-as-black-as-Pro-100/m-p/260083#M6445</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just purchased a Pro-10 after returning a newly bought Pro-100 in favour of having longer photo durability and getting all that extra black and white advertised features. It turns out no matter what paper I use, what media type I choose, what Color Mode I choose &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I cannot get absolute black on Pro-10&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Things I have tried:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1- 4" by 6", letter and 13" by 19" (A3+).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2- Matte paper, photo luster pro, glossy.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3- &lt;EM&gt;Perceptive&lt;/EM&gt; vs &lt;EM&gt;Relative Colorimetric&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4- Use &lt;EM&gt;ICC Profile&lt;/EM&gt; vs &lt;EM&gt;Pro Mode&lt;/EM&gt; vs &lt;EM&gt;Black &amp;amp; White&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5-&lt;EM&gt; Standard &lt;/EM&gt;vs&lt;EM&gt; High Quality&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6-&lt;EM&gt; Borderless &lt;/EM&gt;vs&lt;EM&gt; Bordered&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;7- Also tried "Print margins as black". Which is basically pure black on Pro-100 but not pure black on Pro-10&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;8- I have tried photos that are simply RGB = 0, 0, 0. No shades or Camera fed blacks but absolute black.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;9- Tried printing from my phone as well as my PC.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;10- Head alignment, nozzle check and other generic stuff a customer representative would ask (Did you try unplugging it and plug it black? Did you uninstall and reinstall drivers?)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In all of my tests, Pro-10 produces a color on top of the black color. It is almost like the old days where the LCDs couldn't get very black while LEDs were doing perfect blacks. I contacted Canon and they suggested that I should create my own ICC profile by purchasing a printer calibrator hardware. This is unrealistic. I got a Pro-100 and right out of the box it was giving me the black color without any tweaks or issues.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Another thing I noticed is that Pro-10 is significantly slower to print when compared to Pro-100 and it drinks Photo Black so much faster. With the equal amount of prints I have done on both Pro-10 and Pro-100 for the identical photos / settings, the Pro-100's black went down by about 10% while the Pro-10 is almost at half!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please be as specific as possible as you can without asking generic questions such as monitor calibration etc (already mentioned it's rgb=0,0,0) :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is it possible to get black color on Canon's Pro Luster when using Pro-10 that is as dark as Pro-100's ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 01:07:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>aram</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-28T01:07:37Z</dc:date>
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