topic Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings in Professional Photo Printers

Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 02:20:41 GMT

I can't figure out how to adjust these settings, and it's driving me up a wall. I have read some things about disabling color management from the driver. I wish to do this but I can't figure out how, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:23:01 GMT

How is your printer configured? I have never seen the symbol before yor printer ID? The Mac system automatically disables color management, so that should be OK. It looks like the paper type in LR and the driver are the same, so you shouldn't need to change that, but I don't understand the printer symbol.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:34:05 GMT

I'm not sure that I follow. I'm new to this whole printing deal, what do you mean exactly? I appreciate the reply.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:40:13 GMT

My guess is that you are right on with me not configuring it right... but I'm not sure what I did wrong. I have this option as well, but the settings are different, limited, but accessible. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:41:18 GMT

Also, I live in Center Conway, NH. That image is taken from Mount Adams, small world it seems.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:50:18 GMT

Reconfigured, same issue. I would just like to be able to select the black and white box, and make any necessary color adjustments if needed after soft proofing. What are your recommendations for color management?

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:50:28 GMT

Check for private message.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TCampbell — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 05:49:57 GMT

It's possible to have Adobe Lightroom do the color management... or let Canon Print Studio Pro do the color management... or let your Mac do the color management.

But the really important thing is that you only do color management in ONE place... don't try to have Adobe do color management AND have the Mac do color management because that'll get you poor results.

The whole point of color management profiles (ICC profiles) is that they tweak the amount of ink that will be applied based on the type of paper and quality settings that you have selected. E.g. suppose the paper doesn't take red very well and needs to have the reds boosted to get appropriate color matching... the ICC profile tells the software what it needs to do. If you do this in Lightroom, it'll send output to the Mac's printer queue with adjusted color values to compensate for the printer/ink/paper/quality settings that you use... but if you ALSO tell the Mac to adjust color values, then it'll add even MORE tweaks to the already tweaked data... in other words it will go too far and you'll get a bad result.

I've noticed when I use Adobe Lightroom -or- Canon Print Studio Pro and ask either of them to handle the color correction... then when the image gets to the mac's print queue, the color management choices are grayed out. They seem to be able to notify the mac that the iamge data is pre-adjusted and this disables the mac's color management (which is a good thing).

I see in your screen shot, that you've set the "Color Management" section to have LIghtroom manage the color and you've picked the Canon PRO-100 <LU> ... (<LU> is "Luster" paper). I can't see if there's a quality setting... if you have more than one "<LU>" choice in your color management (in Lightroom) then you may see a number (1/2/3/4/5) and these are the quality settings (in fact in your print dialog window you can see the quality is one notch away from the finest quality... that's quality level 2 (1 is finest... 5 is fastest). Some ICC profiles have multiple quality choices because the amount of ink applied would be different at different print speeds.

You might want to install Canon Print Studio Pro plugin for Lightroom... which makes it easier to print.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 14:47:15 GMT

Thank you for the in depth reply, I really appreciate it. That makes perfect sense, that by letting Lightroom set the profile it tells the Mac printing not to do any adjustments. With that being said, I should basically just ignore all of those pages then? By soft proofing I will be doing all of the necessary adjustments beforehand is how I see it, I have the paper/quality set of 1/2 Pro Luster (highest quality as you said). My one concern is printing black and white then, in those greyed-out settings (and on Print Studio Pro), there is a little box that you check to tell it to print black and white, how does that work in these Lightroom settings? Sorry for the lengthy and confused response, but again I greatly appreciate your help. Thank you.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 14:58:00 GMT

Hi Tyler. As Tim states, it is Mac standard protocol that if you select application manages color in the app then color management in the driver is grayed out. But, I don't understand why the screen you are showing is grayed out, since you select profile in LR but the media type in the driver.

See my screenshot:

What driver are you seeing in Printers & Scanners?

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 14:59:58 GMT

Back again. It looks like you have multiple versions of the printer installed (copy 1, 2 3 I see). Are any of them Bonjour or AirPrint series?

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:17:17 GMT

Right, I'd really like to be able to change the media type, and simply access the settings like I'm supposed to be able to even if I don't need them all. I am using Pro Luster Paper at the moment, so that's okay but I'd like to try others too. My driver seems to be right, I really cannot figure out the issue. I will give you a call around 3 or so if that's still okay.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:20:37 GMT

Yes, I do believe that the AirPrint might be Bonjour, which I've read is wrong I think. I deleted and started from scratch before downloading those 3 in a frustrated state of mind. Should I delete them all and try again? I don't see it changing much at this point.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:29:18 GMT

3PM would be fine.

My suggestion is delete all copies of the printer. Be sure you have the latest driver. Reinstall driver. Click “+” to add printer and wait for several minutes. The real Canon driver comes up after Bonjour/AirPrint versions. Could take 3 or 4 minutes.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:30:48 GMT

I will try that when I get home, it should be the IJ version, right? Thanks again, I really appreciate all the help.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:31:27 GMT

Yes, IJ version.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:07:11 GMT

Running out of time to call before going to work. I tried getting rid of the current printers (1,2,3) and getting the IJ version, but it hasn't made any difference. Right back to here sadly, I'm perplexed and frustrated by this. I'd much prefer to use Lightroom to print so I can softproof and have more control. I have Print Studio Pro downloaded but I don't like it all that much.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:08:41 GMT

Laptop or desktop? I am busy Thursday and Friday but could meet you at Conway library Saturday.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

TylerLund — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:10:43 GMT

Laptop, mid 2012 MacBook Pro Retina. I could make sure to be there on Saturday if that works for you.

Re: Canon Pixma Pro-100 "Greyed-Out" Settings

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:12:59 GMT

Works for me. 10AM when it opens?