topic Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why? in Professional Photo Printers

Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

lamontg — Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:19:14 GMT

I am attempting to print on the Canon Pro Premium Matte paper and it seems that Canon constrains the margins to a minimum of 30mm. The Custom button is grayed out in Print Studio Pro. I have also tried to get around this in Lightroom 6 (by not using Print Studio Pro), but when I send the photo to my Canon Pixma Pro-100 the printer driver informs me that the 30mm margin will be imposed.

Is there any way to get around this limit? If not, does anyone know why Canon imposes this limit (especially on a smaller letter-sided paper? Thanks for the help from anyone more knowledgeable.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

Michael — Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:31:28 GMT

Hello.

When printing on Fine Art Paper, the printer will place a border around the image. This is because Fine Art Paper may have a tendency to curl as ink hits the paper, resulting in paper jams.

If you need additional assistance or details about media type settings for your printer, find more help at Contact Us.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

lamontg — Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:26:37 GMT

Michael, thank you for our reply.

: )

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

lamontg — Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:31:16 GMT

Michael, any chance you might point me to the answer on this?...
http://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Understanding-the-quot-Printer-paper-Profiles-quot-for-Print/m-p/219913

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

jrhoffman75 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:39:22 GMT

The number prefixes are quality settings.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

jrhoffman75 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:41:17 GMT

You can select Matte Photo Paper as media type and then select Minimize Paper Abrasion in the driver.

This will avoid the 30mm margin.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

lamontg — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:57:30 GMT

Thank you John!

Is there further explanantion somewhere of what these quality numbers mean?... so would a prefix of "3" mean that it's printed at 9x the quality of a prefix of "1/3"?

I am new to the Pro-100 and Canon paper and seems that some of this information is difficult to find in any of the Canon documentation -- so I am thankful of other users that are willing to help.

: )

~Lamont

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

lamontg — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:12:00 GMT

Thank you again John for the reply.
I have since looked through the printer (driver) settings available in Print Studio Pro with Pro Premium Matte Photo paper selected and have not been able to find the "Minimize Paper Abrasion" setting.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

jrhoffman75 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:43:33 GMT

You need to be in the actual printer driver. Windows or Mac computer?

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

lamontg — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:24:07 GMT

Thanks again for the reply John!

So I found the "Prevent Paper Abrasion" setting in the Mac print driver (image 1 below)

As it seems that Print Studio Pro would still not allow me to set a margin less than 30mm,

I attempted a direct print via the Mac OS-X Print (driver) and the Pro-100 responded with the message below (image 2).

I like the look of the matte paper, but I am wondering if I need to be exploring outside of the Canon matte papers to find one without the margin limitations due to paper quality affecting curl -- or whether all matte/art papers are vulnerable to curling and paper jams for the Pro-100?

Simply looking for the benefit of other's experience as the Canon documention seems limited in this area.

: )

Lamont

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

jrhoffman75 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:37:00 GMT

Select Letter Paper and Matte Photo Paper, not Fine Art Paper and Premium Matte.

The 30mm is hard wired into all Fine Art Paper settings.

For larger prints I like the matte effect offered by the border and use A3+ 30 for all papers.

I agree it is too much on letter size.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

lamontg — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:46:38 GMT

Thank you again John!
Yes, this was basically a test with my letter-sized sample pak.
Agreed on larger papers, that the border is a nice affect and look forward to trying the A3+ (13x19).
I've read less than positive reviews/comments on the Canon Pro Matte paper -- however, I really like the look.
I appreciate all your time in helping me with this issue.
~Lamont

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

jrhoffman75 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:08:19 GMT

To be clear-I’m not saying don’t use the Pro Matte. Just choose the options I gave so you can use the Pro Matte without the border. I’ve printed both ways and see no difference.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

lamontg — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:37:47 GMT

...yes, I understood that you meant only the paper selection on the PSP dropdown menu -- not the paper choice itself. I'm pleased with the printing results on the Canon Pro Matte.
Out of curiosity, as you mention using the matte paper -- does printing on matte tend to take a lot more ink? I'm on my setup cartridges and trying to be conservative with my paper testing with different photos.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

jrhoffman75 — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:07:20 GMT

Hi Lamont. I can’t provide info on ink usage for matte versus gloss papers.

Two things to look for: Canon periodically has free paper deals when you buy ink from their eStore. Also, Staples gives dollar rewards for recycling ink cartridges and has periodic sales on ink.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

rtknu — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 21:00:22 GMT

Does an equivalent workaround exist for the Windows driver?

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 21:10:31 GMT

Yes.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

rtknu — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 18:01:28 GMT

Thanks, but that did not seem to do much on the Previews in PS or in the Print Driver, so I expect the largest print I can make on A3+ is 11.5x17.2. I hoped your advice would allow me to defeat the 30cm margin, but apparently not.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

jrhoffman75 — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 21:32:57 GMT

You need to read the whole thread. Select Matte Photo Paper, not Premium Matte, select Minimize Abrasion and print from Manual Feed Tray.

Re: Pro Premium Matte Paper: Margin limited to 30mm...Why?

ChrisA — Mon, 16 Sep 2019 22:53:01 GMT

Hello Michael or other Canon podcut expert (official or otherwise) -

I have a Pixma Pro-100 and I want to circumvent the 30mm border limit for art paper. Trust me, I have good reasons.

Please let me know how to do this.

Thank you,

Chris