topic Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000 in Professional Photo Printers

Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jsk53 — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 15:42:05 GMT

I have just upgraded printers from the Canon Pixma Pro 9500 MkII to the new Canon ProGraf Pro 1000. I got great prints from the Pro 9500 MkII but I wanted the bigger paper size the Pro 1000 gives me. Since the upgrade, I have a bunch of questions I don’t really see answers to in the manual. No particular order to my questions as I just jotted them down as I went along.

Does using specific paper .icc profiles take the place of custom or common color calibrations on the Prograf Pro 1000?

If so, how do you turn off printer color management in the Pro 1000 driver setup?

On my 9500Pro Mkll I was able to turn off printer color management and use the printer .icc setup in LIghtroom to manage color from my calibrated monitor. It does not appear I can do that in the ProGraf Pro1000 software. If I use the .icc profile for my paper in the Canon Print Studio Pro software, do I set the Lightroom print module to printer manages color? I would think if I use both the Lightroom module to set the .icc as well as the Canon Print Studio software to the same .icc profile, it would be a potential conflict? Or, do I set the Canon software color management to auto and use Lightroom to choose the .icc profile?

I also noticed that in Lightroom, I have the color space set to ProPhoto RGB which I am told is the best color space to use for printing. When I open Print Studio Pro, it shows the embedded color space on the image as Adobe RGB 1998 and I cannot change that setting. If Lightroom has the image as Pro Photo and the printer driver Adobe RGB, how can soft proofing work?

Any direction I can get will be very much appreciated. I really want to take advantage of all the great features of this printer. Thanks.

Jeff

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:09:06 GMT

Jeff

Did you get any answers. I have just upgraded tot eh 1000 and am getting awfully oversaturated colour using Luster in both LR & PS; yet it works fine in PSP. It is almost like a double profile but unlike the 9000 i cannot switch it off...frustrating and wasting paper by the bin full...

Cheers

Paul

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:37:20 GMT

http://ugp01.c-ij.com/ij/webmanual/Manual/All/PRO-1000%20series/EN/BG/bg-003w.html

See page S002W. Looks like Pixma driver.

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:52:04 GMT

John

Thanks for the response; it is a print dialogue box issue - i only get 4 choices and none to do with colour; so i have found the cause (i think) but not the solution, BTW I use MAC so the manual advises re laod teh driver wihc i have 3 times. Time to call Canon.

Cheers

Paul

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:17:01 GMT

If you are on a MAc the problem might be that you have selected the Bonjour version of the printer driver rather than the IJ printer driver.

Go to System Preferences->Printers and Scanners and see what driver you have installed.

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:20:56 GMT

Ha ha ..that could be it as i did but i did not see another version - about to install again will check...

Thanks

Paul

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:54:05 GMT

Click "+" and just wait. Bonjour generally appears first and the the Canon driver appears.

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:07:41 GMT

Am at stage but no + button showing so just waiting to see what happens - thanks again. Interstingly 3 printers on our nextywork are all showing bonjour...

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:25:10 GMT

The "+" is the Add Printer button in the Printers and Scanners window. Sorry for confusion.

The Bonjour driver is an Apple general purpose driver. You miss all the enhanced properties of the manufacturer driver.

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:25:42 GMT

Have done that and the printer appears in the preferences but nothing in the driver dialogue box....yet

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:27:22 GMT

You've downloaded and installed thge Canon driver from the Canon support site?

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:34:17 GMT

Yes on a number of occasions but only via the 'bonjour route'...so when i go into PS/LR the print drivert fucntion is limited...i have not seen the Canon IJ when installing the driver

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:58:52 GMT

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/professional-large-format-printers/professional-inkjet-printers/imageprograf-pro-1000

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:10:12 GMT

Thanks am on phone with Cannon UK - i fear you know more than them; all they can say is 'that's weird'...

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:21:25 GMT

So reset printing system is their answer otherwise they have no idea...could be going back if this does not work and a move to EPSON...

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:41:39 GMT

I recommend downloading and installing Canon driver, deleting the Bonjour printer, and reinstalling printer, waiting for Canon driver to appear when you go to add. It should work; I've helped several this way.

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:10:52 GMT

John

I have tried this on a number of occasions - tried both full package driver and printer driver, cleared everything from my system ie printers from library/all downloads/system prefs via trash then emptied this - not sure of course where the actual drivers are located - and restarted; waited for up to 30 minutes when adding printer all to no avail...so open to any other suggestions while i wait for Canon UK to come up with an answer...

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:14:27 GMT

I'm at a loss Paul.

http://ugp01.c-ij.com/ij/webmanual/WebPortal/PTL/ptl-setup_portal.html?lang=en&type=setup&area=jp&model=pro-1000

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:28:23 GMT

Me too especially as PSP is printing fine via the plug in for LR & PS...have just re-connected the printer to the wirelss LAN and am going to give it one more go...

Re: Color Managament in ProGraf Pro1000

paul1958 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:29:50 GMT

Ok John finally solved it for LR & PS. In this dialogue box i put in the IP address of the printer and hey presto...

Thanks for your input - learnt a lot.

Cheers

Paul