topic Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints in Professional Photo Printers

Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

paaflyer — Sun, 01 Jan 2023 16:53:32 GMT

I have a Canon PRO 1000. It has printed perfectly until very recently. Now all my prints come out with a yellowish caste/tint to them. I have a calibrated iMac monitor using the Datacolor SpyderX Pro. I have calibrated the printer in the maintenance area. I use Lightroom for all my photo editing and printing. For the monitor in Settings I have selected Apple Mac-1 for color profile created using the SpyderX. I use an ICC profile for the paper I use but have tried all the generic settings. Same result. In Lightroom I have tried various settings in the print module. Under printer settings/Printer options I have tried using calibrated, default, and diusregard value. same results. I have done print head cleanings and all colors come out OK. Cleanings make no change. Various photo papers also tried with same results. Yellowish looking. Bad colors due to yellow cast. Any ideas will be appreciated.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

frodrig — Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:41:59 GMT

Hi! Same problems here but with magenta cast. No idea what is happening. All started to work badly from one day to another. The problem comes when I try from fine art problems using my computer (Mac). No matter the software I use. It also happens from Mirage that doesn't work with drivers... crazy. Very sad about this with the canon printer.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

J-Gerard — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 02:17:00 GMT

Looking for help with the same issue. I have been printing with the Canon Pro-1000 since 2018 and my print workflow hasn't really changed. RAW image capture from 5D, R and R5 cameras, Editing in Lightroom Classic, Monitor calibrated quarterly, Printing on Red River Paper with ICC profiles provided by Red River. Up until this year 2023 I had no issues with the printer, colors were very accurate. The only issues I ran into were related to monitor brightness and that was user error.

Now I'm seeing a yellow color cast in my prints. I initially thought I had the wrong color profile selected. The colors are not just warmer, they appear to be flat, less vibrant as well. It's immediately noticeable and the prints are unusable. I printed a few days ago and I was thrilled to see accurate colors from the printer but a second print of the same image printed with the yellow color cast a few days later. Very frustrating.

One significant thing has changed in 2023, I upgraded my computer from a 27in iMac to a 16 in MacBook Pro (M2) earlier this year - and about the same time I started seeing this issue. I have reinstalled the printer drivers but the results are the same.

Support for this issue would be appreciated.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

J-Gerard — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 03:01:37 GMT

Quick follow-up to my post - As I continue to troubleshoot this issue I switched to Canon Photo Paper Pro Luster paper. I changed to the appropriate Canon ICC paper profile in Lightroom Classic and I see the same yellow cast to the image. Finally, I ran the print again but I turned off the paper/printer profile and selected "Managed by Printer" in the Lightroom Classic print menu. This time the print looked like what I see on my computer screen. The colors are more vibrant and I do not see a yellow cast to the image.

I can use this setting for now because I'm tired of wasting paper and ink on prints I can not use. However, the issue seems to be the application of the ICC profiles. Can anyone confirm my findings? Has an update in the printer drivers or the transition to the new M1 or M2 chips on the Mac rendered the existing ICC profiles incompatible?

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

paaflyer — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 03:51:21 GMT

This happened some time ago. I seem to recall fixing it by uninstalling the printer in the settings area and reinstalling the printer. At the same time or in concert with this I also downloaded the printer driver at canon. After reinstalling the printer it all worked again. I think the problem was caused by an update to my mac iOS. Withe new canon driver and after reinstall all ok again.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

J-Gerard — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 12:16:25 GMT

Thanks paaflyer, I installed the latest drivers when I set up my new MacBook, and I'm pretty sure I reinstalled the drivers when I first noticed the print issues because I chose the Apple "AirPrint" drivers first and that didn't work at all.

However, I may need to go ahead and try a full reinstall of the drivers because the problem continues when I enable any of my ICC print profiles on Canon or Red River papers.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

paaflyer — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 15:43:58 GMT

Don't use the AirPrint unless you need it. I use the other one since I am hooked up by cable to the printer. Y0u get more control and options not using the AirPrint driver.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

kngdmond — Sat, 02 Sep 2023 04:39:18 GMT

This just recently happened to me as well. I was running Windows 10 and prints perfectly represented what I saw on my display. I did a fresh install of Windows 11, installed the latest drivers, updated the printer firmware and now I have a sepia / tan color cast on all prints using any Canon paper profile. I used a Xrite Studio1 and calibrated the display, and created a custom paper profile. Same weird color cast. I uninstalled the Xrite management and tried using DisplayCal and did an extensive monitor calibration and paper profile. Still have the color cast. I uninstalled DisplayCal, deleted all spooler color profiles associated with Canon, unistalled the printer, and reinstalled the drivers again. I factory reset the printer. I printed with PS managing color, turned off PS management and used the printer, I even used the Canon Pro software disabled all color management and still got the wierd hue. Even QImage printed with the strange hue. I used srgb, Adobe RGB, Display RGB, and everything looked fine, but as soon as I picked any Canon paper it added the hue. As a test I sent the file to my cell phone and printed to the printer and the color looked perfect. So there's got to be something messed up with the driver and new OS's. I called Canon support and spent a good 45 minutes trying to figure it out and the tech was stumped and had no suggestion. Guess I'm stuck printing from my phone or an external device until they fix it...if they ever do.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

J-Gerard — Sat, 02 Sep 2023 13:23:23 GMT

Kngdmond, I feel your pain. While I continue to troubleshoot the issue or get a fix from Canon, I have been letting the printer manage the color (gasp!) and my prints look very good, no color cast. This is just a Band-Aid not a solution. I am now looking at the "Advanced Paper Settings" in the printer driver. At first glance you might not think this section has anything to do with color management, but... the "Calibration Value:" is tied to the printers internal calibration function. The options are "Printer Default, Use Value, Disregard Value" and my driver defaults to "Printer Default". Changing this to "Disregard Value" turns off this calibration adjustment. I still need to run a few tests but my first pass did not have the color cast. More prints to come, I'll share my findings once I have printed enough to share some findings.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

kngdmond — Mon, 04 Sep 2023 22:31:58 GMT

This an update:

Factory reset the Pro-1000
Recalibrated the color on the printer itself
Did test print and patter check, correct colors

From my production laptop:
Updated windows
Deleted the printer drivers
Deleted all color management (Display Cal)
Deleted all ICC profiles
Downloaded the latest software and drivers

Took an image, converted to black and white
Desaturated and set vibrance to zero
Sampled the color and PS said is 211, 211, 211 (light grey)
Assigned Adobe RGB to the image
Color proofed using Canon Fine Art Smooth
Disabled color profiling in the driver - set to none
Let PS manage color and set Canon Fine Art Smooth as the profile to use

211, 211, 211 (light grey) printed tan / Sepia

Turned off color profiling on the printer and got the same results. Tan / Sepia

Tried changing color balance in PS reducing red and increasing cyan and printed with the same results.

Setup color profile in the print driver and set PS to let the printer to manage colors. Printed tan / sepia.

Frustrated I dragged out an old laptop running Windows 10, which can't be upgrated to Windows 11 due to not having updated hardware. Running old PS 6. Removed all calibration and printer profiles. Installed the latest drivers. Ran the same tests. 211, 211, 211 (light grey) printed tan and sepia.

Thinking it was my file. I downloaded a calibration greyscale print from the web that everyone uses. It printed tan / sepia.

I transfered both test files to my cell phone and printed (via wifi same method used from my laptop), low and behold, grey was grey and not tan / sepia. Tested a color image from my phone, no color cast.

I mean the last extreme thing I can do is dual boot into Linux and test printing from linux using Gimp or something similar.

The only thing I haven't done is see if I can rollback the firmware on the printer. Not even sure thats possible.

If anyone has 2 cents they'd like to share, I'm 100% open to it.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

yachtcruising — Sat, 09 Sep 2023 19:43:29 GMT

My findings are the same as yours when it comes to black and white - only use canon papers, managed by printer. Everything else, other papers and ICC profiles in black and white I get an awful color cast. ICC profiles and other papers are only good with color. Disappointment since there are so many lovely third party papers that would look good for black and white images.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

J-Gerard — Sun, 10 Sep 2023 13:16:34 GMT

@kngdmond, The only success I've had to remove the color cast is to let the printer manage the colors. I thought the printer calibration might have something to do with it but I still get the "sepia" tone over the image.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

CustomerJames — Wed, 11 Dec 2024 07:10:36 GMT

My own Pro-1000 started having the "yellow tint" issue a couple weeks ago or so. I finally found this forum post after trying a few different printing variations myself (all to no avail), but after trying @J-Gerard 's suggestion of setting "Calibration Value" to "Disregard Value" I was able to make a print which looked normal. However, the NEXT print I made (for which I had to re-select the "Disregard Value" option) still had the same yellow cast. I then tried to use the "Use Value" option. Still bad.

Next I tried ditching Photoshop altogether and used Preview to print, leaving the "Calibration Value" set to "Printer Default" and the print looked perfect. Then I downloaded the latest version of Canon Print & Layout, and after spending a ton of time trying to get it to work, the print came out looking good, though a TINY bit warmer than the print from Preview. Printing from Preview feels cheap, but it seems to work (I remember going this route the last time I had issues getting proper color from Photoshop and Print Studio Pro). P&L also works, but I hate the UI.

Some tech info... Computer: Mac Studio M1 Max | OS: 13.7.1 (Ventura) | Photoshop versions 24.7.5 (2023) and 25.12.0 (2024)

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

CustomerJames — Wed, 11 Dec 2024 07:22:48 GMT

I also wanted to note: I tried different images, and different rendering intents as well. Neither made any difference when printing from Photoshop (either 2023 or 2024).

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

paaflyer — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:54:18 GMT

Go to canon and get the latest driver for your printer. I use an iMac and every time I get a new iOS update it screws things up. After I get the latest printer driver and reinstall it my printer problems are usually gone. I fought color casts for a while one time but then the new driver fixed it all. Uninstall the printer after getting the new driver then reinstall. The newest one in from November. Call canon tech support if you need help. They can talk you thru it. Very helpful and friendly.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

sallymason — Wed, 05 Mar 2025 18:19:46 GMT

I know this thread is nearly 2 years old, but did you ever find a solution to your colour cast problem? I've had a similar issue with my Pro 1000 for the past 4 months and have tried everything to no avail. Any suggestions would be very welcome.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

paaflyer — Wed, 05 Mar 2025 19:25:35 GMT

NO. It is still there. Best I to let the printer control and not use ICC control. but even this is not perfect.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

sallymason — Wed, 05 Mar 2025 19:47:18 GMT

Oh my goodness....firstly, thank you for replying....I can't believe you haven't found a solution after all this time! Not using ICC profiles is REALLY not ideal. It's just not getting the best out of the printer. I'm at my wits end...

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

J-Gerard — Wed, 05 Mar 2025 20:40:37 GMT

As paaflyer mentions above, I have not found a solution simply by updating the printer drivers on my Mac. The "work around" is to allow the printer to control the color. It goes against everything you hear from the print experts but the colors are very good and I no longer have an unacceptable color cast.

Re: Pro 1000 Color cast on prints

sallymason — Wed, 05 Mar 2025 20:58:19 GMT

Thank you, J-Gerard. It looks like I might just have to do the same, but I find it so frustrating as the printer worked perfectly for 2 years. Then, out of the blue, (I hadn't completed any upgrades) it suddenly started printing incorrect colours. I hadn't considered it to be a colour cast, but maybe that's what it is. When I allow the printer to control the colour, things are much better - but still not perfect. I'm going to try a complete factory reset, delete all Canon software and ICC profiles and re-install from scratch. I'm not holding my breath...