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    <title>topic Canon Pro-10 black and shadows matte vs. glossy in Professional Photo Printers</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Canon-Pro-10-black-and-shadows-matte-vs-glossy/m-p/394031#M13949</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello, I am new to my Canon Pro-10 printer and can't find driver or image adjustments that will give smooth gradation of blacks. I am using InkOwl ink and TurboPrint on Linux with default settings in general. I also tried the Windows driver and from MacOS, with no real difference.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I started with an admittedly cheap glossy paper, "pen&amp;amp;gear glossy." The images seemed fine except for the blacks which had a mottled appearance. See upper right corner of image. I tried adjusting various settings one at a time and none had any effect on this issue. (Image 1)&amp;nbsp; I decided this was an issue with the paper and switched to some matte inkjet paper that I had from my years-ago attempts using an Epson photo printer, which was from MIS Associates.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With this matte paper, the results are better. If I print to this paper using the glossy paper setting in the driver, I get a reasonable print, though the blacks are not as black as they could be. (Image 2) If I switch to the matte paper setting however, I get a darker print overall, but also one where all the details in the shadows are completely lost and it prints as total black. (Image 3)&amp;nbsp; For comparison I scanned a grey card and marked on the prints where this grey seemed to match. (Image 4)&amp;nbsp; Images were scanned without any color correction.&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Image 1" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/37353i44F23467C6AAEDA9/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="1_test_print_glossy_setting_on_glossy_paper_alt2.jpg" alt="Image 1" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Image 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Image 2" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/37354i4109066C6D13323D/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="2_test_print_glossy_setting_on_matte_paper_alt2.jpg" alt="Image 2" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Image 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Image 3" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/37355iD231DC7DA0C25691/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="3_test_print_matte_setting_on_matte_paper_alt2.jpg" alt="Image 3" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Image 3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Image 4" style="width: 200px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/37356i04635CCC443AC4C2/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="4_grey_card_18_percent_alt2.jpg" alt="Image 4" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Image 4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I plan on ordering paper that matches the choices in the driver, so I'm not guessing on what paper most closing matches the paper I am using. But the switch between matte and glossy seems to have the greatest effect.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any thoughts on why the shadows on the glossy paper came out so badly?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any advice on how to correct the image either before printing, or in the printer driver, so I end up with a range of shadows with matte paper?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2022 04:38:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>kgalle</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-11-16T04:38:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Canon Pro-10 black and shadows matte vs. glossy</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Canon-Pro-10-black-and-shadows-matte-vs-glossy/m-p/394031#M13949</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello, I am new to my Canon Pro-10 printer and can't find driver or image adjustments that will give smooth gradation of blacks. I am using InkOwl ink and TurboPrint on Linux with default settings in general. I also tried the Windows driver and from MacOS, with no real difference.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I started with an admittedly cheap glossy paper, "pen&amp;amp;gear glossy." The images seemed fine except for the blacks which had a mottled appearance. See upper right corner of image. I tried adjusting various settings one at a time and none had any effect on this issue. (Image 1)&amp;nbsp; I decided this was an issue with the paper and switched to some matte inkjet paper that I had from my years-ago attempts using an Epson photo printer, which was from MIS Associates.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With this matte paper, the results are better. If I print to this paper using the glossy paper setting in the driver, I get a reasonable print, though the blacks are not as black as they could be. (Image 2) If I switch to the matte paper setting however, I get a darker print overall, but also one where all the details in the shadows are completely lost and it prints as total black. (Image 3)&amp;nbsp; For comparison I scanned a grey card and marked on the prints where this grey seemed to match. (Image 4)&amp;nbsp; Images were scanned without any color correction.&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Image 1" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/37353i44F23467C6AAEDA9/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="1_test_print_glossy_setting_on_glossy_paper_alt2.jpg" alt="Image 1" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Image 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Image 2" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/37354i4109066C6D13323D/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="2_test_print_glossy_setting_on_matte_paper_alt2.jpg" alt="Image 2" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Image 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Image 3" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/37355iD231DC7DA0C25691/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="3_test_print_matte_setting_on_matte_paper_alt2.jpg" alt="Image 3" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Image 3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Image 4" style="width: 200px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/37356i04635CCC443AC4C2/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="4_grey_card_18_percent_alt2.jpg" alt="Image 4" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Image 4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I plan on ordering paper that matches the choices in the driver, so I'm not guessing on what paper most closing matches the paper I am using. But the switch between matte and glossy seems to have the greatest effect.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any thoughts on why the shadows on the glossy paper came out so badly?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any advice on how to correct the image either before printing, or in the printer driver, so I end up with a range of shadows with matte paper?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2022 04:38:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kgalle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-16T04:38:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon Pro-10 black and shadows matte vs. glossy</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Canon-Pro-10-black-and-shadows-matte-vs-glossy/m-p/394055#M13951</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looks like you are using third party inks, non-Canon paper and a third party printer driver. Far too many variables.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:20:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Canon-Pro-10-black-and-shadows-matte-vs-glossy/m-p/394055#M13951</guid>
      <dc:creator>jrhoffman75</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-16T13:20:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon Pro-10 black and shadows matte vs. glossy</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Canon-Pro-10-black-and-shadows-matte-vs-glossy/m-p/394097#M13958</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I agree with John and the best I can offer is "good luck"!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Great B&amp;amp;W printing is difficult enough without adding variables.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2022 16:16:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Canon-Pro-10-black-and-shadows-matte-vs-glossy/m-p/394097#M13958</guid>
      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-16T16:16:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon Pro-10 black and shadows matte vs. glossy</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Canon-Pro-10-black-and-shadows-matte-vs-glossy/m-p/394185#M13959</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Fair point, I'll work on reducing the variable count.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 02:09:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Photo-Printers/Canon-Pro-10-black-and-shadows-matte-vs-glossy/m-p/394185#M13959</guid>
      <dc:creator>kgalle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-17T02:09:32Z</dc:date>
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