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EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

blakeakablezzy — Sat, 04 Mar 2023 15:24:07 GMT

canon c70 XF-avc 4k intra 60/24 fps

anyone having issues with the video showing up BUT ONLY AUDIO ON FCPX

Re: canon c70 XF-avc 4k intra 60/24 fps

rs-eos — Sat, 04 Mar 2023 12:57:41 GMT

I have not had any issues with C70 footage with Final Cut Pro (I currently have version 10.6.5). I have mostly used the XF-AVC YCC422 10 bit and RAW ST codecs at 24.00 fps. For gamma, I always use CLog2.

What version of Final Cut are you using?

Re: canon c70 XF-avc 4k intra 60/24 fps

blakeakablezzy — Sat, 04 Mar 2023 14:09:40 GMT

Hi Ricky I had the same version as you I was shooting 4k 60/24 intra xf avc ycc422 with the new canon 709 profile only 30fps works for me I use the late 2019 intel MacBook Pro 16inch with the adm 5500 graphics

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

AceRaz — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:58:04 GMT

I have the same problem, it is the first time I shot 24fps ( I usually shoot 25fps Pal ) but I had a shoot recently for client in the US and they wanted 24fps.

For some reason I can open the clip in VLC player but It only loads as Audio in FCPX / Compressor so this slowly turning into a nightmare as I need to get this clip to the editor ASAP, if you have any help would be much appreciated.

I have a MACBOOK PRO M1 MAX 2021 running Ventura MAC OS 13.3, I upgraded hoping the issue would go away but nope, exactly the same

I am guessing there is an issue with 24fps as anything else i have shot mostly 25p or 23,98 has worked flawlessly previously.

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

rs-eos — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 14:53:15 GMT

What specific codec are you using on the C70? RAW? XF-AVC? MP4?

How are you injesting the footage? For my workflow, I'll take the SD card from the C70 and insert it in the SD card slot on my iMac Pro and make a copy of the entire card to my external RAID data drive. e.g., I'll create a folder for that card's contents and then within it will be subfolders of "CONTENTS", "CRM", "DCIM" and "MISC". When importing in Final Cut Pro, I point to the folder I created, and all my clips are found. Imported clips have both video and audio.

What version of Final Cut are you using?

Finally, shouldn't matter, but are you capturing in true 24 (switched the system frequency)? Be sure to match the Final Cut project settings to 24 frames (or 23.976 if that is what you're capturing).

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

AceRaz — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 15:09:18 GMT

Here are my settings, 4K 24P ALL-i, as far as I know, the 24p setting can ONLY work when the frequency is switched to 24 hz.

This was my b-cam and the a-cam was the C500ii which imports 24fps absolutely fine... so I am baffled why the c70 would suddenly make you jump through hoops, I don't usually shoot 24fps so this is my first experience with the C70 doing this. 25fps has been flawless since I purchased a year or so ago.

The clip only shows up as audio in FCPX but plays in both VLC and also Canon MXF player, so this makes me think FCPX or Quicktime has an issue with the C70 running 24fps ??

My FCPX project is running at 4K DCI 24fps also so I am truly baffled

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

blakeakablezzy — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 15:15:46 GMT

This doesn’t work for me the 4k 24fps started to work I brought a new computer Mac m2 but only audio still shows on 4k 60 xf avc normal shooting mode

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

rs-eos — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 15:43:47 GMT

Are you and AceRaz using Apple Silicon Macs? Perhaps that's the issue? I'm still on an Intel Mac (iMac Pro), and have been having no issues with C70 24 fps footage in Final Cut.

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

AceRaz — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 15:49:42 GMT

I just downloaded DA VINCI RESOLVE and the thankfully shows up and works.

This is some weird bug / issue with 24fps in FCPX and Quicktime as you can't preview the file in finder either and QT must be the main culprit. I am just glad I have some sort of solution. It might be time to transition to Da Vinci as an editor platform

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

AceRaz — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 16:02:50 GMT

I have both an intel 2019 mackbook pro and a 2021 macbook pro M1 MAX

Maybe it needs some sort of apple driver update ?

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

blakeakablezzy — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 16:48:26 GMT

Yeah daVinci doesn’t work either with the 4k 60 xf avc intra I got to find out why maybe I have to shoot in fast mode

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

harlemshero — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 22:38:26 GMT

i was having the same issue in fcpx... download shutter encoder.
you can rewrap footage to .MOV file, Saved my life completely

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

token_drone — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:24:34 GMT

Having same problem with C70 Intra-Frame 240Mbps. I can't believe they haven't fixed this yet!!

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

token_drone — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:26:00 GMT

Canon, please fix this! C70 Intra-Frame 240Mbps will not import into FCPX.

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

rs-eos — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 02:09:09 GMT

What is your specific macOS and version of Final Cut Pro? I did not have any issues with Intra-frame C70 footage (true 24 fps DCI-4K at 440 Mps) on my prior iMac Pro running up to macOS 13.4. And no issues on my M2 Mac Studio with macOS 13.4.1 and Final Cut Pro 10.6.6.

Also no issues with RAW footage (I capture in RAW ST, 24 fps, DCI-4K). I have the CanonRAW.bundle plugin installed (/Library/Application Support/ProApps/Plugins/VendorSpecific/)

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

token_drone — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:35:57 GMT

Recently shot Canon C70 Intra-Frame 240Mbps footage will not import into FCPX, only recognizes the audio. Canon XF Utility recognizes the footage. Premiere Pro sees it too. Tried it on two different computers with the same result. Mac Studio M2 Max, Ventura 13.4.1, FCPX 10.6.6. Also same problem with Mac Pro 2013, FCPX 10.6.5, OS 12.6.2. I used Shutter Encoder to rewrap the files to .mov and was then able to import into FCPX.

Here's an original clip: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yn35fb0oyqetbpb/CanonC70.zip?dl=0

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

rs-eos — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:58:28 GMT

Thanks for sharing the video file. Are those files exactly how it came off the camera?

The .mxf file does appear in Finder to only be an audio file. Opening in QuickTime Player reveals it's indeed audio only (or at least it thinks it is). Final Cut would be leveraging very similar logic to what QuickTime player is using, so not surprising it would also see this as audio-only. Linear PCM at 4.61 Mbps.

Not sure what is going on here. Do you have the issue with all codecs? Maybe this is specific to the 240 Mbps one?

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

token_drone — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 17:07:53 GMT

It's a new camera so this is my first time shooting this specific format. I shot H.264/Long GOP 108Mbps previously and that imported without issue. The files are exact and they open in Premiere, Canon Utility, Adobe Media Encoder.

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

token_drone — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 18:00:55 GMT

Also same problem with Intra-frame 600mbps 59.94p

Re: EOS C70 Video Comes Up as Just Audio in FCPX

anthonyledonne — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:28:59 GMT

I also have this problem. By "this problem," I mean some clips show up as audio only in FCPX. The affected videos have no issue in Adobe Premiere Pro. I haven't tested in DaVinci Resolve.

I shot all 57 non-S&F format, resolution, frame rate, and bit rate combinations to figure out which were affected.

Here's a PDF of the results.

Here's a copy of the SD card, exactly as it came out of the camera.

FCPX version 10.6.6
16-inch MacBook Pro with an M1 Max
Ventura 13.4.1