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    <title>topic Initial tests of Cinema RAW Lite on an EOS C70 in Professional Video</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I only did two brief tests today. &amp;nbsp; Common settings: On a tripod. &amp;nbsp;RF 24-70 f/2.8 at f/2.8 with IS OFF. &amp;nbsp;DCI 4K, 24 fps, 180º shutter angle. ND around 2 to 4 stops. &amp;nbsp;Canon Log 2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Two codecs compared: 10-bit YCC 4:2:2 All-I and 12-bit RAW ST&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One experiment (images not shown here) was an indoor scene containing part of a very bright window. &amp;nbsp;Thus a higher dynamic range as what could be captured. &amp;nbsp;So far, I've found no advantage to capturing in RAW here. &amp;nbsp;One still has to correctly expose for the scene and highlights appear to clip at the exact same point. &amp;nbsp;Perhaps if one isn't using Canon Log 2, there may be more latitute with RAW? &amp;nbsp;I also noticed a tad more sharpness with RAW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Second experiement (included below) was another indoor scene with even lighting. &amp;nbsp;I also found a bit more sharpness with RAW. &amp;nbsp;For one set of footage, I didn't re-aquire focus between takes (after grabbing focus with AF, switched to MF). &amp;nbsp;For the second set though, after I switched codecs, I re-acquired focus to ensure that my pressing buttons and interacting with the touch screen wasn't what caused the change in sharpness. &amp;nbsp;It did not. &amp;nbsp;However, I was pixel-peeping. &amp;nbsp;At a normal viewing distance, I don't think the sharpness difference will be noticeable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Left: 12-bit RAW, Right: 10-bit YCC 4:2:2 (zoom of 400%)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="12-bit RAW" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/33406iE97ED6BB6FF6E471/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="ColorCheckerRAW.jpg" alt="12-bit RAW" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;12-bit RAW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="10-bit YCC 4:2:2" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/33407iF9B750B1059D8B30/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="ColorCheckerYCC.jpg" alt="10-bit YCC 4:2:2" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;10-bit YCC 4:2:2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Other notes... I didn't yet attempt to really push the footage. &amp;nbsp;So not sure yet how much better pusing 12-bit vs 10-bit would be from a practical standpoint.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The file sizes of RAW are about 3% smaller than the YCC files. &amp;nbsp;RAW ST used 398 Mbps and YCC All-I used 410 Mbps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When capturing in RAW (at least with ST and I think the other modes), you only have two options for footage to card B: either an exact copy (i.e. simultaneous record), or a proxy. &amp;nbsp;Not possible to do a sub-recording of say Long-GOP.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I edit all footage on an iMac Pro, macOS 12.3.1, Final Cut Pro 10.6.1, Canon Cinema RAW Lite Plugin 2.6.0.5&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No issues at all with either codecs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For the future... I want to re-rent (or purchase) the RF 0.71 adapter and try the two codecs with my EF 50mm f/1.2 lens to check handling in very low-light situations. &amp;nbsp; Also need to use the RF 24-70 lens for some outdoor scene tests too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In summary, a tad more crispness/sharpness with the RAW footage. &amp;nbsp;RAW doesn't seem to provide any more latitude exposure-wise (at least with Canon Log 2). &amp;nbsp;Too early to tell on heavy 12-bit vs 10-bit grading. &amp;nbsp;While slightly smaller files, depending upon how you record, this could lead to a higher cost of media cards. &amp;nbsp; For the All-I footage, I was using a 256 GB V90 card in slot A and then slot B uses a 128 GB V90 card capturing Long-GOP as a backup. &amp;nbsp; If I move to RAW, I'd need card B to also be 256 GB.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:56:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>rs-eos</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-04-10T16:56:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Initial tests of Cinema RAW Lite on an EOS C70</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Professional-Video/Initial-tests-of-Cinema-RAW-Lite-on-an-EOS-C70/m-p/368336#M1974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I only did two brief tests today. &amp;nbsp; Common settings: On a tripod. &amp;nbsp;RF 24-70 f/2.8 at f/2.8 with IS OFF. &amp;nbsp;DCI 4K, 24 fps, 180º shutter angle. ND around 2 to 4 stops. &amp;nbsp;Canon Log 2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Two codecs compared: 10-bit YCC 4:2:2 All-I and 12-bit RAW ST&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One experiment (images not shown here) was an indoor scene containing part of a very bright window. &amp;nbsp;Thus a higher dynamic range as what could be captured. &amp;nbsp;So far, I've found no advantage to capturing in RAW here. &amp;nbsp;One still has to correctly expose for the scene and highlights appear to clip at the exact same point. &amp;nbsp;Perhaps if one isn't using Canon Log 2, there may be more latitute with RAW? &amp;nbsp;I also noticed a tad more sharpness with RAW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Second experiement (included below) was another indoor scene with even lighting. &amp;nbsp;I also found a bit more sharpness with RAW. &amp;nbsp;For one set of footage, I didn't re-aquire focus between takes (after grabbing focus with AF, switched to MF). &amp;nbsp;For the second set though, after I switched codecs, I re-acquired focus to ensure that my pressing buttons and interacting with the touch screen wasn't what caused the change in sharpness. &amp;nbsp;It did not. &amp;nbsp;However, I was pixel-peeping. &amp;nbsp;At a normal viewing distance, I don't think the sharpness difference will be noticeable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Left: 12-bit RAW, Right: 10-bit YCC 4:2:2 (zoom of 400%)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="12-bit RAW" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/33406iE97ED6BB6FF6E471/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="ColorCheckerRAW.jpg" alt="12-bit RAW" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;12-bit RAW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="10-bit YCC 4:2:2" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/33407iF9B750B1059D8B30/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="ColorCheckerYCC.jpg" alt="10-bit YCC 4:2:2" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;10-bit YCC 4:2:2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Other notes... I didn't yet attempt to really push the footage. &amp;nbsp;So not sure yet how much better pusing 12-bit vs 10-bit would be from a practical standpoint.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The file sizes of RAW are about 3% smaller than the YCC files. &amp;nbsp;RAW ST used 398 Mbps and YCC All-I used 410 Mbps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When capturing in RAW (at least with ST and I think the other modes), you only have two options for footage to card B: either an exact copy (i.e. simultaneous record), or a proxy. &amp;nbsp;Not possible to do a sub-recording of say Long-GOP.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I edit all footage on an iMac Pro, macOS 12.3.1, Final Cut Pro 10.6.1, Canon Cinema RAW Lite Plugin 2.6.0.5&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No issues at all with either codecs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For the future... I want to re-rent (or purchase) the RF 0.71 adapter and try the two codecs with my EF 50mm f/1.2 lens to check handling in very low-light situations. &amp;nbsp; Also need to use the RF 24-70 lens for some outdoor scene tests too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In summary, a tad more crispness/sharpness with the RAW footage. &amp;nbsp;RAW doesn't seem to provide any more latitude exposure-wise (at least with Canon Log 2). &amp;nbsp;Too early to tell on heavy 12-bit vs 10-bit grading. &amp;nbsp;While slightly smaller files, depending upon how you record, this could lead to a higher cost of media cards. &amp;nbsp; For the All-I footage, I was using a 256 GB V90 card in slot A and then slot B uses a 128 GB V90 card capturing Long-GOP as a backup. &amp;nbsp; If I move to RAW, I'd need card B to also be 256 GB.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:56:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rs-eos</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-04-10T16:56:51Z</dc:date>
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