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Well I think this is better

Far-Out-Dude — Tue, 30 May 2023 00:53:45 GMT

Well I think this is better but there is something about it that is not right in my mind. I can't wait to get my new glasses. What are your thoughts? Canon M50 Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Lens f/5.6 1/1250 ISO1250

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Tronhard — Tue, 30 May 2023 01:00:00 GMT

Hi again:
The exposures on these are far superior to what you showed on your original post, so you should feel good about that. To me, the first one is a bit out of focus - the eyes in focus are the critical thing above all else, but the second image looks really good.
What disturbed you about the images?

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Far-Out-Dude — Tue, 30 May 2023 01:09:11 GMT

Thank you very much. There is something in the separation of the feathers I do not like, the lines do not look crisp enough to me. With the eyes I knew that right off, the camera as I have been reading more has a problem with distinguishing animal eyes in some cases, not all but some, it makes me want to upgrade even more on the camera side. I had it on the setting that is supposed to follow faces and eyes, but it would not focus that way, as a matter of fact I had to use BBF to get it to focus at all and then it wanted to focus near the bottom of the square with a bunch of little blue squares.

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Tronhard — Tue, 30 May 2023 04:02:57 GMT

Not knowing your settings and distance to subject, it is hard to gauge the likely depth of field, but possible it was dropping off with the breadth of the bird's body.

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Far-Out-Dude — Tue, 30 May 2023 07:52:19 GMT

Under 30 yards, I know that for fact because I used my range finder and one decoy was set at 25 yards and the other at 30 and it was between them. I am heading out but will get you the further information when I get home.

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Tronhard — Tue, 30 May 2023 09:05:28 GMT

Can you advise the focal length, and aperture for that second shot please.

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Far-Out-Dude — Wed, 31 May 2023 07:20:40 GMT

I'm sorry, I thought I had said it but did not, the second is an edit of the first using Luminar Neo.

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Tronhard — Wed, 31 May 2023 08:30:12 GMT

OK, but the focal length and aperture are??? I'm trying to get the data to calculate the depth of field.

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Far-Out-Dude — Wed, 31 May 2023 23:45:57 GMT

Sorry it took so long. It was shot at 400mm and 5.6 The aperture, speed and ISO are all up top as well.

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Tronhard — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 00:21:10 GMT

No worries. Well according to that information: APS-C sensor, 400mm, f/8 at 30m your DoF would be about 1.2m. So, if you focused on the eye or head, it would be about 0.4m (16") in front of the eye, and 0.8 (32") behind. Which, given the plump nature of the birds, could explain why the plumage is getting a bit soft in places.

For reference, this came from Cambridgeincolour.com, an excellent site for photography information and getting advice. A Flexible Depth of Field Calculator (cambridgeincolour.com)

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Far-Out-Dude — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 01:04:51 GMT

Thank you very much for that information, I saved it to desktop and will try to learn to understand it better starting tomorrow, this will be my first full nights sleep since May 1 and the great news is I got my new oxygen machine yesterday so I should be getting better with most things shortly, no more oxygen down to between 69-71 and I can't wait to be awake again for the first time in a long time.

That said would changing my aperture to maybe 7.1 make that clearer? I think I have some images I took that day at a higher aperture. Thank you for all the help. Oh I will be sending my camera in this week for repaid, I hope to have it back in time for Fourth of July, this will be the first year I will be able to shoot pictures of fireworks because unfortunately my dog has lost her hearing and is no longer scared by them so I do not have to stay in the house with her to keep her from shaking. (Something I gladly do, I love the little turd.)

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shadowsports — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:36:46 GMT

f7.1, give it a try. Even though you are decreasing aperture, your shutter and ISO can be lowered as long as Turkey man isn't running around. Your background is also far enough behind your subject that you will still get a little blur. I can see a little noise in the shadows, but nothing you shouldn't be able to overcome shooting in good light.

Glad you are getting the screen repaired. 👍

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Far-Out-Dude — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 18:54:02 GMT

Thanks for the help. I am going to have to move away from turkey until at least the Fall, the season ended yesterday and I am not allowed back on the property again other than to go pick up my two blinds. I hope I can find another place, I would LOVE to get a picture of a deer giving birth but that is a incredibly hard one to get.

I filled out the paperwork, the truck is at the shop getting new brakes and rotors and the camera will be sent out as soon as I get the truck back.