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All this AI is Eating Up Drive Space

Tronhard — Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:23:36 GMT

When I set up my home computers, I do so the same way I did when I worked at it. So, a large capacity disc split into at least two partitions: one is for Drive C: and that is my boot disc, operating system (Windows) and programs. The second partition Drive contains my data - desktop, downloads, installation files for the OS and apps, and of course, the data files.

The reason for this separation is because a disc partition acts like the watertight partitions in a ship. If one is compromised the other remains functional. On the occasions when I have seen a major issue, it has been on the C: drive. In extremis, one can format the partition clean and do a reinstall, using the recovery disc you should create when you have configured your computer. With that one can get the basics of the OS going again and reinstall windows and the apps, using the source files from the D:drive. Of course the data remains intact and is backed up regularly.

All that aside, I have historically left around 150gB of free space on the C: drive and that was fine for years, until AI started inflating the O/S, browsers and, in particular, Adobe products. Suddenly my spare space on C: had shrunk to on a few MB. The answer was to do a full back up of all of the material on the D:drive, delete that partition and then extend the C:drive to give it more space - which I did with an extra 150GB. Then I re-created a new D:drive and restored the contents, so we're back to BAU.

Re: All this AI is Eating Up Drive Space

normadel — Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:21:55 GMT

Well, separate partitions may offer protection as you say, but they are no protection at all from a failing/failed drive. Drive corruption can render the entire drive unusable, not just the system partition. Partitioning a drive has ORGANIZATIONAL benefits, not SAFETY benefits.

Re: All this AI is Eating Up Drive Space

Tintype_18 — Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:58:51 GMT

Any way to get around or eliminate the AI? I have a problem with modern electronics when they add things I don't want or never asked if I want it or need it.

Re: All this AI is Eating Up Drive Space

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 17 Jul 2024 16:36:26 GMT

Hi Trevor. I checked my LrC and Ps folders and both are less than 4GB. What are you seeing relative to folder name and size?

Re: All this AI is Eating Up Drive Space

Tronhard — Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:43:56 GMT

Thanks for your input John!
I agree with your values. It seems that some other programs are getting into the bandwagon - especially some aspects of windows - the list of Win 11 associated files has exploded and I have received about 1 update per week.

Whatever the cause, my normal junk-cleaning programs don't see them as an issue and I have successfully extended the logical C: drive space to give me another spare 150GB of storage, that should hold it for a while! I am planning a desktop or workstation purchase around Christmas (I am currently using a MS Surface Pro) and then I can happily configure that to my own requirements at the time.

Re: All this AI is Eating Up Drive Space

Tronhard — Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:10:14 GMT

Sorry, but it is also a safety benefit, but I totally agree about having multiple separate backups on different platforms. 👍 That is why I have 3 sets of backup discs for my data. However, that is a separate issue to do with loss of the drive system or hardware for any number of reasons: hardware failure, theft, fire etc.

The setting up of a partition each for OS and apps separate from that for data, is a standard commercial practise, to protect against a software corruption that renders the OS inoperative and would otherwise create a risk of having to format the drive clean again to use it. This corruption can happen for any number of reasons - a bad update design causing OS issues (seen a few of them in my career), scrambled read/write etc. I did it for decades when I worked on numerous large clients' enterprise systems as an engineer in a couple of large computer companies in North America - I was contracted to IBM and MS as an engineer and taught as a master trainer.

FWIW, until I retired, I was certified as a MS engineer, and am still A+, and network+ certified, as well as a certified ITIL Expert and Trainer.

Re: All this AI is Eating Up Drive Space

Aurora4233 — Sat, 27 Jul 2024 14:25:48 GMT

Thankfully internally large spinning hard drive storage has gotten so cheap you can have your watertight partitioned comfort for nearly nothing. I just dropped in two more top quality 8TB drives to mirror each other for backup security with recent work and they were only $109 each.

You didn't mention how many TBs you're running with now but even 16TB internal 3.5" drives at slower performance speeds are only $155. So you could double down on those and write off the cost as plenty of time saved fussing with partitions while still having dual redundancy.

Good luck!

-Chris

Re: All this AI is Eating Up Drive Space

normadel — Sat, 27 Jul 2024 15:59:30 GMT

Tronhard......for what it's worth, I am a long-time computer technician, both as a hobby, then as a professional. A+, Network+, Apple Certified technician, Dell Certified technician. But there's no need to tout our resumes.

Partitioning a hard drive may be safe for keeping things separated, but something that corrupts one partition could also mean impending damage to other partitions....mechanical glitches, electrical faults, infections, etc. I stand by my statement that partitioning is for organization, not for safety of any particular partition.