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Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

greenbeaner — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:37:04 GMT

I am contemplating buying the canoscan 9000f, but I will need to be able to scan 110mm film format. Can I do this on the canoscan 9000f? I have seen an adapter for that film size on ebay and amazon (oddly enough, cannot find it on Canon), but the price is prohibitive. Can I scan negatives without any holder - in other words, just lay the film directly on the glass platen and scan the negatives in that way?

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

Michael — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:29:19 GMT

Hello greenbeaner.

The 9000F can only scan 35mm negatives, 35mm slides and 120 format film.

Other film types are not supported with this scanner.

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

greenbeaner — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:29:21 GMT

You did not answer the part of my original question that asked, "Can I scan negatives without any holder - in other words, just lay the film directly on the glass platen and scan the negatives in that way?" Please answer this.

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

Michael — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:54:56 GMT

Hello greenbeaner.

Unfortunately, film cannot be scanned outside of the film guides. The film would not be detected properly.

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Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

praveenkashmir — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:24:31 GMT

Hi Greenbeaner,

You can scan 110 format negatives in this scanner. However, the quality of scans will be poorer as compared to standard Nikon 9000ED scans. But, this is worth it if you are not a proffessional and just looking to get your scans digitized.

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

Scanman — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:53 GMT

Hi praveenkashmir,

You say you can scan 110 format negatives with the Canonscan 9000f!

Canon product expert says that it can not be done.

He says the 9000F can only scan 35mm negatives, 35mm slides and 120 format film. Other film types are not supported with this scanner. Also unfortunately, film cannot be scanned outside of the film guides. The film would not be detected properly.

I tried anyway by loading some colour 110 film strips across the 120 format film guide supplied and selected scan. A prescan was attempted but a Scangear message window opened stating 'Cannot detect any film'.

I would appreciate your advise in detail on how you succeeded please.

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

smaricic — Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:50:58 GMT

I found a useful article online called: "How to Scan Odd (Non-Standard) Size Film Negatives on a CanoScan 8800F Scanner -Made Easy".

Here's the URL: http://askjoanne.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Scan-Odd-Non-Standard-Sized-Negative-on-a-CanoScan-8800F

I have a Canoscan 9000f, and I guess it is similar to the 8800f.

Under the scanner lid, remove the white and black background panel. Center the 110 negative on the glass and close the lid.

When you get into the Canon MP Navigator software, you want to Scan and Import -- Film. Click on the little box that says "Use the scanner driver." Then click on "Open Scanner Driver." That sends you to the ScanGear Advanced Mode settings.

The first time I did this, I could not understand why many choices were grayed out.

You have to click on PREVIEW !!

When I did this, I got an error message: "The film could not be detected. Please check if the Select Source is correct, or confirm if the film is set correctly and execute preview again. Otherwise, please switch off the thumbnails view mode."

That last part was the key -- the thumbnails switch is in the upper left corner of the screen. There's a little Slide icon and a little Negative icon. Click on this "switch", and when the Negative icon shows up in color, you are set to go.

Now, when you click on PREVIEW, your 110 negative should appear. Now just "crop" the 110 negative: move the cursor over one corner of the negative, hold down the left mouse button, move to the diagonally opposite corner, release the mouse button.

Delete the black box (if there is one) in the upper left of the scan area.

Now click on SCAN. When it finishes scanning, you can choose to "Retouch and save the image (Close ScanGear dialog)". When you close ScanGear, you will wind up back in the MP Navigator.

In the Scan Complete box, click on exit.

Then SAVE your scan under a new name (not IMG).

Then you can Open the image in a good photo-editing software. I use PhotoShop Elements. There you will need to crop each individual photo on the 110 strip, and save each photo under a different name.

I think you can use the same technique on other sized negatives.

A good article about negative sizes is: "About Film Formats - Slides, Negatives, & Transparencies" at www.pearsonimaging.com .

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

frichardfolkert — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 01:35:53 GMT

I'm an Epson user muddling around here because my wife is a Canon devotee. I don't know how the 9000f works but I can tell you that you don't want the transparencies to lie flat on the glass of the scanner. The results will not be satisfactory, never mind the details.

I made two different negative holders for my Epson flatbed that accepted 127 film and 116/616 film. These hold the negs above the glass and let me scan these odd-sized negatives. I'm sure similar holders can be made for any flatbed scanner.

Good luck.

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

ww1aero — Sat, 16 May 2015 21:58:02 GMT

Hi Frichardfolkert,

How high off the surface are the negatives held, using your homebuilt neg holders? I don't own the 9000F yet, but do you elevate the odd size negatives the same amount that they are held off the glass in the Canon 35mm holder?

Thanks..................Pete

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

greenbeaner — Sun, 17 May 2015 16:52:00 GMT

smaricic,

Thank you for taking the time to send all that information. Because of your help, I have more confidence in making a decision to purchase the canoscan9000f, since one of the main things I wanted to use it for was digitizing my old 110 negs.

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

RobertFrei — Sat, 28 May 2016 03:25:24 GMT

You can use your intentionally crippled Canon scanner to scan other sizes of film, but you will need to make a mask. Caveat - the scan area at any one time cannot exceed the size of a 35mm scan, and you will need lots of patience and careful work. Use 90 pound or heavier paper and make sure each cut is done with a single stroke to minimize paper dust. Cut the outside dimensions of the mask to match the size of a 35mm slide. Then cut an opening in the middle of that piece of paper that is the size of the image you want to scan. Use the slide template in the scanner, and place one mask in each of the four slide holders. Carefully lay the film so that one of the images is over the hole in the template. You may do up to four of them at a time this way, but only 1 image from each strip of film. I don't recommend cutting the strips. Make sure you don't use anything to press the film flat as anyplace the film touches the glass or any glass "flattener" it will create an interference pattern throughout your scan. Tell Scangear that you are scanning slides. Scan away. (Side note: If we want to make sure that artificial intelligence (AI) never becomes powerful enough to take over the world, all we have to do is make it illegal for any company except Canon to do AI research. They have not gotten it right in all their years of writing scanner drivers, all they have ever achieved is a frustrating level of limitations on what you can do with your scanner. - But at least the scanner does a great job once you find ways past its limitations - and turn off all the artificial intelligence features.) [note: descending from soap box.)

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

Canada_Pat — Fri, 28 Jul 2017 00:02:00 GMT

smaricic, I created a Cannon account just so I could thank you for this tip. I tried everything, except "click on preview". I didn't even see it.

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

smaricic — Fri, 28 Jul 2017 14:10:08 GMT

Hi, Pat,

I'm glad it worked out for you.

Canon just asked me to fill out a survey, and I did. I asked them to sell a 110 negative holder and to update their software to make it easier for people. I'm guessing they'll ignore that, but you never know.

Best wishes,

smaricic

Re: Can I scan 110 film negatives on the canoscan 9000f?

Canada_Pat — Fri, 28 Jul 2017 18:07:51 GMT

I absolutely agree with you, smaricic, that it would be great if Cannon sold a 110 negative holder. I saw that other people were able to make their own. After limited success, I bought an after-market 110 negative holder for a ridiculous price. That said, the photos I have recovered are, to me, priceless!