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    <title>topic Total beginner, what to pick , birds, outdoors etc ? in General Discussion</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/96960#M24360</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Help, so many to choose from, just to get started total biginner, less than 1.500 usd..&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 22:56:06 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Macv</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-06-04T22:56:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Total beginner, what to pick , birds, outdoors etc ?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/96960#M24360</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Help, so many to choose from, just to get started total biginner, less than 1.500 usd..&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 22:56:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Macv</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-04T22:56:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Total beginner, what to pick , birds, outdoors etc ?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/96970#M24361</link>
      <description>Nobody can tell but you, try them all and see what you like most. All of us have to go through this path. You can get 70D kit and it should be good.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 23:44:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/96970#M24361</guid>
      <dc:creator>hsbn</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-04T23:44:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Total beginner, what to pick , birds, outdoors etc ?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/96972#M24362</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't believe in spending money just because you have it.&amp;nbsp; If you're a total beginner, get a beginner kit.&amp;nbsp; Stash away the extra money for when you figure out what type of photography you want and get some lenses for it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;$600 can get you a nice little kit:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A target="_blank" href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/914091-REG/canon_digital_rebel_t3i_18_55mm_is.html"&gt;http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/914091-REG/canon_digital_rebel_t3i_18_55mm_is.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 00:20:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/96972#M24362</guid>
      <dc:creator>Skirball</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-05T00:20:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Total beginner, what to pick , birds, outdoors etc ?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/97042#M24363</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Get a EOS Rebel T5i with the 18-55mm kit lens. Birds generally take a long lens but you'll find a shorter range like the 18-55 more rewarding. With the savings from your $1.5k budget take a community course in photography. &amp;nbsp;Photography is like that. You get something and then need to spend a considerable effort learning to use it. Figure that for every dollar you spend on equipment, you should spend at least a dollar on building technique. It's that important but t&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 15px;"&gt;he T5i is a body you can grow into.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good luck.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Edited: The post previously said that a teleconverter could extend the range of the 18-55 lens was incorrect. The EF-S design lenses, such as the 18-55 kit lens referenced above, are not compatible with the teleconverters made by Canon and presumably all other parties.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:37:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/97042#M24363</guid>
      <dc:creator>cale_kat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-05T18:37:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Total beginner, what to pick , birds, outdoors etc ?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/97176#M24364</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"&gt;I can't quite get to the $1500 limit but close. &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The&amp;nbsp;Sigma 150-500mm f/5-6.3 DG APO OS (Optical Stabilizer) HSM AutoFocus Telephoto Zoom Lens for Canon and a Rebel T5i kit would make a pretty nice 'starter', 'birder' outfit.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"&gt;The Siggy has a $200 rebate right now. &amp;nbsp;T5i is around $749 and the rebated Sigggy is $869 = $1618.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"&gt;B&amp;amp;H has a E+ used one for $799. ($749 + 869 = $1548)&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"&gt;T5i&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"&gt;body only&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;and the big Sigma would make it under your $1500 limit. &amp;nbsp;The used one way under you lmit. &amp;nbsp;Enoch for a&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;FONT&gt;&lt;U&gt;nice&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;tripod left over.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:16:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Total-beginner-what-to-pick-birds-outdoors-etc/m-p/97176#M24364</guid>
      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-05T15:16:57Z</dc:date>
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