topic Re: Retreiving RAW in General Discussion

Retreiving RAW

tinwhistle — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 05:46:57 GMT

I've been taking pictures in RAW for some time now, mostly because of the post processing. This evening I went into my archives and retreived a RAW file only to discobver that it apparently isn't in RAW . I'm obviously doing something wrong. What? I'm running PC with Windows 7 and use either CS6, Elements 11 or 12. Mostly 12. Any ideas...

Re: Retreiving RAW

Waddizzle — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 12:59:21 GMT

It is not all that difficult to accidentally change the setting when you are on the "Quick Setting" screen menu.

I have caught myself shooting just JPG from time to time. I have also taken an HDR shot, which requires you to shoot JPG only, and have forgotten to change it back to RAW. Double check the camera settings, and keep having fun taking shots.

Re: Retreiving RAW

kvbarkley — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 13:59:34 GMT

Also, you might have tried to save a JPEG and overwrote the RAW. This is why it is good to use a DAM like lightroom, it makes it very difficult to overwrite/delete the originals.

Re: Retreiving RAW

ebiggs1 — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:37:04 GMT

"... only to discobver that it apparently isn't in RAW"

What type file is there? If you changed the format from RAW to jpg, it wouldn't have over written your RAW version. No matter what software you are using.

Not on topic but nonsense ... "I have also taken an HDR shot, which requires you to shoot JPG only" RAW is the preferred format for HDR. Or, any DSLR photography, IMHO, for that matter. RAW conversion is so simple and seamless, even the email to grandma can be a RAW conversion.

Re: Retreiving RAW

kvbarkley — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:52:16 GMT

in-camera HDR requires RAW.

Re: Retreiving RAW

Waddizzle — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 18:16:01 GMT

"Not on topic but nonsense ... "I have also taken an HDR shot, which requires you to shoot JPG only" RAW is the preferred format for HDR. Or, any DSLR photography, IMHO, for that matter. RAW conversion is so simple and seamless, even the email to grandma can be a RAW conversion."

Nonsense?

Apparently, some cameras will only do in-camera HDR when you shoot as JPEG. Of course, not yours.

Re: Retreiving RAW

Waddizzle — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 18:16:37 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
in-camera HDR requires RAW.

That's not true, either.

Re: Retreiving RAW

ScottyP — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:31:24 GMT

I found out the hard way that if you restore settings to default the camera switches from shooting RAW to shooting JPG. That is one way to inadvertently switch to JPG.

Re: Retreiving RAW

tinwhistle — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 02:01:33 GMT

Thank you all for the input, but I must have approached my problem the wrong way. The camera is recording just fine; RAW plus jpg. Downloading into the computer is just fine=RAW and jpg and both files are saved. When I open the RAW file for the first time it opens in RAW. Now comes the problem: after working on the image I'm given 4 choices for closing that screen, most of the time I click on "open image" and the image moves to whatever program I have open. At that point I've assumed that my oroginal RAW file is moved back whense it came, as a RAW file. However, the last few times I've gone back (at a later date) and retrieved that file it opens in the same condition (ie all the sliders, etc) just as I left them. I can, of course move the sliders back to "0", but why doesn't the orginal file (RAW) get sent back as a RAW and subsequently be re-opened in RAW? To make a long story longer; it's not the camera and it's not the original download. I am doing something wrong after post processing.

Re: Retreiving RAW

ebiggs1 — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 05:00:29 GMT

No nothing wrong.

RAW can not be displayed on a monitor. It has to be converted. When this happens you make a data tag file that is associated to your original RAW file. So whenever you open it, the computer reads that tag and displays it. Rest assured the original RAW file is there and it is unchanged. It is simply the tag that gets changed.

Most cameras use the settings you may have set in the camera as a starting point to display the RAW file. These settings are not actually in or do they actually change the RAW file.

Re: Retreiving RAW

ebiggs1 — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 05:00:58 GMT

This makes it sound like your statement is the only way.

"I have also taken an HDR shot, which requires you to shoot JPG only, and have forgotten to change it back to RAW."

Of course the better way to shoot an HDR is in post and not in the camera at all. And the better way requires you to shoot in RAW format.

"Apparently, some cameras will only do in-camera HDR when you shoot as JPEG."

Perhaps so but a further knowledge of cameras would be better than citing a requirement to do so. Don't you think?

Edit:

"I have caught myself shooting just JPG from time to time. I have also taken an HDR shot, ~~which~~ and my camera requires you to shoot JPG only, and have forgotten to change it back to RAW."

Re: Retreiving RAW

Waddizzle — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:25:57 GMT

This makes it sound like your statement is the only way.

"I have also taken an HDR shot, which requires you to shoot JPG only, and have forgotten to change it back to RAW."

Of course the better way to shoot an HDR is in post and not in the camera at all. And the better way requires you to shoot in RAW format.

"Apparently, some cameras will only do in-camera HDR when you shoot as JPEG."

Perhaps so but a further knowledge of cameras would be better than citing a requirement to do so. Don't you think?"

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Practice what you preach. Further knowledge on your part about Rebels, and other models, would be better than citing a requirement that isn't true. For example, every Rebel Ti does it like this. If you set HDR mode, it changes to JPG.

Every Canon DSLR that I have looked at performs in-camera HDR as JPEG files.

Re: Retreiving RAW

ebiggs1 — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:14:51 GMT

I never said they did or didn't. At any rate it isn't the OP issue.

Re: Retreiving RAW

tinwhistle — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 02:30:20 GMT

OK guys, I appreciate all the discussion, but after sifting through all the fodder, there wasn't anything of help. However, the discussion did promp me to look into the situation a lot further than I had in the past. What I came up with: after making my adjustments to the RAW file I save in TIF to whatever program I chose to open the RAW in, (usually CS6) that closes the RAW file sending it back to it's original location . If and when I re-open that RAW file it will open with the sliders just where I left them. At that point all I have to do is click on "defaults" tab and The file reverts to it's original settings, ie all sliders and adjustments move to "0". MY apologies for all the consternation. If I had done my home work ...........