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    <title>topic Re: buying on ebay in General Discussion</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164459#M20557</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"what do you think about what is called grey imports? What I have been trying to buy are brand new but could come from the us or asian markets us brits in the uk get ripped off when it comes to electricals."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Paul,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Living in England probably does you no good the buy Canon USA. &amp;nbsp;That is the difference in what we get and the rest of the world gets. You have Canon-Europe and I suppose it operates like Canon USA. &amp;nbsp;Canon USA does not warranty anything that they do not import. &amp;nbsp;You need to check on Canon-Europe.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Grey market may have slight differences like no manual in English but the product is the same.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I have bouhgt a couple of items from ebay and off Craiglist. &amp;nbsp;All were satisfactory. &amp;nbsp;I have never sold on either. &amp;nbsp;For instance I just bought 500 sheets of unopened 13x19 Canon Photo Pro Luster paper for a cool hundred bucks. &amp;nbsp;It is typically $35 a box.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;B&amp;amp;H, Adorama and Roberts sell on ebay. &amp;nbsp;KEH (used) does as well so there are good sellers on it. &amp;nbsp;All 100% reputable sellers.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hong Kong? &amp;nbsp;Are you crazy? &amp;nbsp;What did you expect.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If you want a used lens check out KEH. &amp;nbsp;They have a great return policy. &amp;nbsp;Also, B&amp;amp;H, Adorama, and Roberts all have used departments. &amp;nbsp;My local camera shop has used gear. &amp;nbsp;None are in Hong Kong!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:39:50 GMT</pubDate>
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    <dc:date>2016-02-15T14:39:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164390#M20549</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;in the past 3 months I have tried to buy a camera lens like 4 times and it is really pissing me off. The first time I made an offer he wanted to avoid paypal and ebay fees and wanted the payment as a friend I refused as I would have no buyer protection.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;He wanted more money so he refunded me I send another payment &amp;nbsp;for £1400 then tried £1440 but again he was wanting more money for a sigma 500mm prime. I tried again on ebay to get the canon 100-400 mk2 ebay quickly cancelled the auction he had about 300 feedback and I was refunded &amp;nbsp;after having to wait 7 days. I tried again and again ebay cancelled the auction listing. I tried this again yesterday I paid £1200 and again ebay has said I dont need to pay as they have cancelled the auction but I have all ready paid. The seller was sending it from Holland but after looking at the seller can see a ton of negatives and see their based in hongkong. This time I thought with 8000 feedback I should be safe no doubt after waiting another 7 days ebay will refund me what the hell is going on with ebay.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am sick and tired of trying to buy a good lens on ebay to keep having the auction cancelled over and over again why ant they any genuine sellers on ebay when it comes to camera lens's.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let me know your thoughts guys thanks for reading.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 21:34:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>paulbrogden10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-14T21:34:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164392#M20550</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ebay?&amp;nbsp; I would never risk it on something costly, most especially if it were something used.&amp;nbsp; No way.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Canon has an online outlet store that sells refurbished equipment.&amp;nbsp; Not everything listed is always available.&amp;nbsp; The best L lenses sell out in short order.&amp;nbsp; The gear that I have purchased is indistinguishable from new gear, and my camera and lenses all come with a one year warranty.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 21:45:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-14T21:45:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164397#M20551</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;what do you think about what is called grey imports? What I have been trying to buy are brand new but could come from the us or asian markets us brits in the uk get ripped off when it comes to electricals.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 21:55:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>paulbrogden10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-14T21:55:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164398#M20552</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/73479"&gt;@paulbrogden10&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#003366"&gt;in the past 3 months I have tried to buy a camera lens like 4 times and it is really pissing me off. The first time I made an offer he wanted to avoid paypal and ebay fees and wanted the payment as a friend I refused as I would have no buyer protection.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#003366"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#003366"&gt;He wanted more money so he refunded me I send another payment &amp;nbsp;for £1400 then tried £1440 but again he was wanting more money for a sigma 500mm prime. I tried again on ebay to get the canon 100-400 mk2 ebay quickly cancelled the auction he had about 300 feedback and I was refunded &amp;nbsp;after having to wait 7 days. I tried again and again ebay cancelled the auction listing. I tried this again yesterday I paid £1200 and again ebay has said I dont need to pay as they have cancelled the auction but I have all ready paid. The seller was sending it from Holland but after looking at the seller can see a ton of negatives and see their based in hongkong. This time I thought with 8000 feedback I should be safe no doubt after waiting another 7 days ebay will refund me what the hell is going on with ebay.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#003366"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#003366"&gt;I am sick and tired of trying to buy a good lens on ebay to keep having the auction cancelled over and over again why ant they any genuine sellers on ebay when it comes to camera lens's.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#003366"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#003366"&gt;Let me know your thoughts guys thanks for reading.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It sounds to me as though E-Bay is doing what they can to keep you from throwing your money at disreputable sellers. Maybe it's a good thing somebody is. Doesn't it&amp;nbsp;worry you&amp;nbsp;that you didn't discover the truth about the seller in "Holland" until after you had&amp;nbsp;sent him &lt;FONT color="#003366"&gt;£1200?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 21:56:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RobertTheFat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-14T21:56:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164399#M20553</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;what is happening is ebay will cancel the auction and after I open a case I will end up &amp;nbsp;getting a refund but this is happening over and over again but you would have thought a seller with 8000 feedback a powerseller would be a safe bet.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 22:00:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>paulbrogden10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-14T22:00:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164401#M20554</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/73479"&gt;@paulbrogden10&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;what is happening is ebay will cancel the auction and after I open a case I will end up &amp;nbsp;getting a refund but this is happening over and over again but you would have thought a seller with 8000 feedback a powerseller would be a safe bet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Like I said, forget about that item on Ebay.&amp;nbsp; Pray that you get you your money back, and stop putting it at such risk.&amp;nbsp; The first time should have taught you something.&amp;nbsp; Now, here you are ready to cough up your cash again, just as soon as you get it back in your hands, assuming that you do.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing, over and over, and expecting a different result.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 22:56:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-14T22:56:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164417#M20555</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Craigslist is pretty good because there is no middle man to take profits twice on the lens. &amp;nbsp;You get to see the merchandise and get a feel for the seller too. &amp;nbsp;Only thing is that if your area isn't a big densely populated one like NYC or Houston or Chicago or something, with a lot of camera selling activity, you can wait a loooong time for the particular lens or body you want to come up for sale. &amp;nbsp;You can place a Want To Buy posting and see if that works.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Be be sure to haggle. You should not pay more than 70 - 75% of the lowest normal new retail selling price, even for a great quality lens. &amp;nbsp;I wouldn't buy a less than great quality lens at all, actually. Several sites track the lowest sale prices of Canon lenses. &amp;nbsp;Walk away if someone thinks they can get full new price for a lens. Wait for the next one.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2016 02:30:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ScottyP</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-15T02:30:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164449#M20556</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3187"&gt;@ScottyP&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Craigslist is pretty good because there is no middle man to take profits twice on the lens. &amp;nbsp;You get to see the merchandise and get a feel for the seller too. &amp;nbsp;Only thing is that if your area isn't a big densely populated one like NYC or Houston or Chicago or something, with a lot of camera selling activity, you can wait a loooong time for the particular lens or body you want to come up for sale. &amp;nbsp;You can place a Want To Buy posting and see if that works.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Be be sure to haggle. You should not pay more than 70 - 75% of the lowest normal new retail selling price, even for a great quality lens. &amp;nbsp;I wouldn't buy a less than great quality lens at all, actually. Several sites track the lowest sale prices of Canon lenses. &amp;nbsp;Walk away if someone thinks they can get full new price for a lens. Wait for the next one.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Craigslist is only OK&amp;nbsp;if you are meeting in person and can inspect the gear, otherwise it is more hazardous&amp;nbsp;than eBay.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:17:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TTMartin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-15T12:17:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/164459#M20557</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"what do you think about what is called grey imports? What I have been trying to buy are brand new but could come from the us or asian markets us brits in the uk get ripped off when it comes to electricals."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Paul,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Living in England probably does you no good the buy Canon USA. &amp;nbsp;That is the difference in what we get and the rest of the world gets. You have Canon-Europe and I suppose it operates like Canon USA. &amp;nbsp;Canon USA does not warranty anything that they do not import. &amp;nbsp;You need to check on Canon-Europe.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Grey market may have slight differences like no manual in English but the product is the same.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I have bouhgt a couple of items from ebay and off Craiglist. &amp;nbsp;All were satisfactory. &amp;nbsp;I have never sold on either. &amp;nbsp;For instance I just bought 500 sheets of unopened 13x19 Canon Photo Pro Luster paper for a cool hundred bucks. &amp;nbsp;It is typically $35 a box.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;B&amp;amp;H, Adorama and Roberts sell on ebay. &amp;nbsp;KEH (used) does as well so there are good sellers on it. &amp;nbsp;All 100% reputable sellers.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hong Kong? &amp;nbsp;Are you crazy? &amp;nbsp;What did you expect.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If you want a used lens check out KEH. &amp;nbsp;They have a great return policy. &amp;nbsp;Also, B&amp;amp;H, Adorama, and Roberts all have used departments. &amp;nbsp;My local camera shop has used gear. &amp;nbsp;None are in Hong Kong!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:39:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-15T14:39:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: buying on ebay</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/buying-on-ebay/m-p/165554#M20558</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I Buy a rebel xt on ebay for the price $49.99 for me is a good price but i got a problem&amp;nbsp;It turns on , and take photos, sometimes its not working properly , but usually it is,this is why you will buy it for a parts or repair with a low price . Take a look on the original actual photos&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:00:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rickyphotopr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-26T23:00:05Z</dc:date>
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