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    <title>topic Re: Best &amp;quot;getting started&amp;quot; body/lens package (80D or T6s)? in General Discussion</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I'd go with the 80D.&amp;nbsp; It's way more capable than the alternative.&amp;nbsp; You can always get better lenses later.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 06:32:40 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>diverhank</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-11-17T06:32:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224668#M18008</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Me: amateur photog, strictly hobbyist. Moving from an older Olympus.&amp;nbsp; I shoot mostly kids sports (track and softball) and landscapes during travel and hiking trips. Some indoor shots at family events and parties. I want the ability to advance my skills and explore a bit more RAW post-processing, and try out some newer techniques and lenses.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've narrowed my decision on a new dSLR purchase to three models on the refurb site that fall within my budget (~$800US) and seem to line up with my needs. Given my targeted spend, I want to maximize my bang for&amp;nbsp;the buck with the overall kit, especially with the included lens(es), so I have enough options to work with until I save up for some more glass:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EOS 80D EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Kit Refurbished - $779&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EOS Rebel T6s EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Kit Refurbished - $749&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EOS Rebel T6s EF-S 18-135mm IS STM Lens Kit &amp;amp; EF-S 55-250mm IS STM Refurbished - $809&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The 80D clearly gets me the better body but with a more limited lens at the start. The T6s is a step backward for the body, but I'd maximize value with the lenses - I'm just having trouble determining how much I'd be sacrificing with the T6s.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also a factor, my father-in-law said he'd give me his 70-300 he no longer uses, so I'd have that in my bag.&amp;nbsp; Just not sure I'd want to lug that around anytime I want to get past 55mm - the 18-135 sounds like a great "do-it-all" lens.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ugh,&amp;nbsp;I'm torn.&amp;nbsp; But I need to pull the trigger soon, the refurb deals (which seem pretty phenomenal) likely won't be around forever.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any thoughts?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:39:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>db1975va</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-17T05:39:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224673#M18009</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'd go with the 80D.&amp;nbsp; It's way more capable than the alternative.&amp;nbsp; You can always get better lenses later.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 06:32:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224673#M18009</guid>
      <dc:creator>diverhank</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-17T06:32:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224692#M18010</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/8163"&gt;@diverhank&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd go with the 80D.&amp;nbsp; It's way more capable than the alternative.&amp;nbsp; You can always get better lenses later.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="georgia,palatino" size="2"&gt;I agree. Just having AFMA is probably worth the price difference.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:49:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RobertTheFat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-17T14:49:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224736#M18011</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/46166"&gt;@RobertTheFat&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/8163"&gt;@diverhank&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd go with the 80D.&amp;nbsp; It's way more capable than the alternative.&amp;nbsp; You can always get better lenses later.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="georgia,palatino" size="2"&gt;I agree. Just having AFMA is probably worth the price difference.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The AF system is the crown jewel. &amp;nbsp;It is REALLY good, and has 27 f/8 AF points, arranged as three rows of nine, which is much better than having just a single center f/8 AF point. &amp;nbsp;The 80D tracks and focuses quickly, and accurately, in AI Servo mode.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:16:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224736#M18011</guid>
      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-18T01:16:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224737#M18012</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/8163"&gt;@diverhank&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd go with the 80D.&amp;nbsp; It's way more capable than the alternative.&amp;nbsp; You can always get better lenses later.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I agree. &amp;nbsp;If Canon wants to give away the 80D at that price, take it, and laugh at them. &amp;nbsp;I have.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:19:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-18T01:19:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224744#M18013</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"EOS 80D EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Kit Refurbished - $779"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;All the way!&amp;nbsp; No choice really go for the 80D kit.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;However, I would do my best to steer clear of the 70-300mm (black one) if possible. You can do better.&amp;nbsp; And better means better results in your photos. The lens is where its at.&amp;nbsp; Not the camera.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 13:20:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224744#M18013</guid>
      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-18T13:20:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224749#M18014</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks, everyone.&amp;nbsp; The 70-300 will be a hand-me-down so likely just temporary.&amp;nbsp; I'll look for good deals on a replacement once I'm ready for that.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How does the&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM perform?&amp;nbsp; That will be my primary lens out of the gate.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Any chance Canon rolls out any promo codes for the refurb store in the immediate future?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 14:58:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224749#M18014</guid>
      <dc:creator>db1975va</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-18T14:58:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224756#M18015</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/99804"&gt;@db1975va&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks, everyone.&amp;nbsp; The 70-300 will be a hand-me-down so likely just temporary.&amp;nbsp; I'll look for good deals on a replacement once I'm ready for that.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How does the&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM perform?&amp;nbsp; That will be my primary lens out of the gate.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Any chance Canon rolls out any promo codes for the refurb store in the immediate future?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is a great lens.&amp;nbsp; Canon is practically giving it away in the Refurbished Outlet.&amp;nbsp; The deal will not last forever, and they are known to run out of stock, particularly around holidays when sales volume tends to spike.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:55:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-18T18:55:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224758#M18016</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/99804"&gt;@db1975va&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks, everyone.&amp;nbsp; The 70-300 will be a hand-me-down so likely just temporary.&amp;nbsp; I'll look for good deals on a replacement once I'm ready for that.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How does the&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM perform?&amp;nbsp; That will be my primary lens out of the gate.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Any chance Canon rolls out any promo codes for the refurb store in the immediate future?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The 70-300mm is not as nearly bad as the 75-300mm lens, which has long been inclulded in entry level camera kits. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Canon does not offer promo codes.&amp;nbsp; Canon simply reduces prices for a brief period, like a week, or a weekend.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:33:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-18T19:33:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224769#M18017</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Definitely won't wait much longer.&amp;nbsp; How do they spread the news if they drop a promo code?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 01:20:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>db1975va</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-19T01:20:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best "getting started" body/lens package (80D or T6s)?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/General-Discussion/Best-quot-getting-started-quot-body-lens-package-80D-or-T6s/m-p/224806#M18018</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/99804"&gt;@db1975va&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Definitely won't wait much longer.&amp;nbsp; How do they spread the news if they drop a promo code?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Canon does NOT offer promo codes.&amp;nbsp; All of their discounts are automatic in nature.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you visit the site, you should be prompted to sign up for email alerts about sales, promotions, rebates, and new gear releases.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 16:09:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-19T16:09:26Z</dc:date>
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