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thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

sportsMom4 — Fri, 28 May 2021 23:27:37 GMT

looking for suggestions on what i should upgrade to. I primarily shoot my daughters sports (soccer and softball). It has been suggested the MARK 5D or 7D

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

rs-eos — Sat, 29 May 2021 00:08:40 GMT

Which lenses do you already own?

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sportsMom4 — Sat, 29 May 2021 00:36:01 GMT

Canon Lens

CANON ZOOM LENS EF-S18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS STM

CANON ZOOM LENS EF 75-300 mm 1:4-5.6 III

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

rs-eos — Sat, 29 May 2021 02:34:13 GMT

Both lenses would work on the 7D line, but only the EF 75-300 would work on the 5D line. Thus, when looking between those two models, you may find yourself needing more lenses if going with the 5D (or even 6D) line which uses a full-frame sensor.

Others will point out other options, but do also look at the EOS 90D as well to see it that would fit your needs.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

shadowsports — Sat, 29 May 2021 18:57:43 GMT

Ricky is always great for providing excellent advice and information. <<<

We need some kind of budget $$$ to make better recommendations.

The 7D Mkii is a great APS-C camera for sports and wildlife

The 90D... while it has 20 less AF points, it adds an articulating screen, better ISO performance and 4K vid at 30P.

If you stick with APS-C format, it would be my choice. Then I'd invest in more / better glass when budget allowed.

If you want the 65 AF point in a FF body and have the budget, a 5D4 is still supreme. However, that also puts you within reach of a R6. While I am not sold on Mirrorless just yet, I cannot deny the capabilites of the body. But again, its all going to come down to budget, what you plan to use the camera for and what type of investment you are looking to make (in the short or longer term).

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

sportsMom4 — Sat, 29 May 2021 19:30:44 GMT

I have been saving for quite so time now. So my budget is up there for a camera kit. I want something for sports action pictures and can handle the weather.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

shadowsports — Sun, 30 May 2021 15:15:23 GMT

All of the cameras we mention and discussed are weather sealed.... 7D mkII, 5D4, 90D and R6.

We are still back to budget and duration of your investment.

Current T6i [2015]

7D mkII - 2014

5D4 - 2017

90D - 2019

R6 - 2020

Newer is not always better, but at some point an investment into older technology needs to be taken into consideration as it impacts you in the long run.

How long have you owned your T6i? When did it stop meeting your needs, when did you decide it was time for an upgrade?

If I were considering a 7D mkII and 5D4... I would choose a 5D4, even if I had a bunch of APS-C glass... I had a T6s and about 8 lenses which I sold when I moved to FF. Now I have a bunch of EF lenses.

The 90D and R6 have articulating screens. The 2 above don't. This was a big deal for me. Others don't care Your T6i has a fixed screen as well. Since you are not heavily invested in APS-C glass, I would look at the 5D4 or R6.

My leaning would be the 5D4 because of my familiarity with DSLR. If however you want to future proof your lens investment, you have to go with the R6. RF glass is the future and some day all of us will be going there.

Go to BestBuy and hold each camera. What feels better to you? Lensrentals dot com allows you to rent cameras for a week at a very reasonable price. That should lock it in for you.

Performance wise for sports either of these are the best Canon has to offer, both will stand up to weather as well.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

ebiggs1 — Sun, 30 May 2021 15:13:51 GMT

IMHO, your least expensive upgrade that will offer the best bang for the buck is the 90D. It is a fantastic camera in its own right. Your current lenses will work just as they have.

However, at this point in time the most logical "upgrade" is a mirrorless camera. If you buy another EF/EF-S model camera you are still in a dead end line. The future is mirrorless.

To be quite frank and on the edge of being brutally honest your,

"CANON ZOOM LENS EF-S18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS STM

CANON ZOOM LENS EF 75-300 mm 1:4-5.6 III" are not the best lenses to make a decision based on still using them. But it is possible to adapt them to a current mirrorless model. That could soften the hit on the ole bank account until proper R series lenses are feasible. The camera will automatically produce cropped images that match the smaller image circle of EF-S optics.

Check out the Canon EOS R Mirrorless Digital Camera or the more Rebel like Canon EOS RP Mirrorless Digital Camera. Both are full frame cameras, BTW.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

sportsMom4 — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 00:32:25 GMT

Are you saying these are or are not good lenses? will work with mirrorless camera body or not?

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

sportsMom4 — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 00:34:23 GMT

This was very informative Thank you. I do want to go and be able to see and hold them in my hands.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

sportsMom4 — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 00:36:43 GMT

May just add a camera body and lenses to my collectionat this time. So if one needs serviced Im not without a camera, like i was last soccer season.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

ebiggs1 — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 14:19:25 GMT

"Are you saying these are or are not good lenses? will work with mirrorless camera body or not?"

To be quite frank and on the edge of being brutally honest your,

"CANON ZOOM LENS EF-S18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS STM

CANON ZOOM LENS EF 75-300 mm 1:4-5.6 III" are not the best lenses to make a decision based on still using them. But it is possible to adapt them to a current mirrorless model. That could soften the hit on the ole bank account until proper R series lenses are feasible. The camera will automatically produce cropped images that match the smaller image circle of EF-S optics.

Here is what I am saying, again just to give you an honest idea of the picture. The lenses you have are the very basic low cost first time camera lenses. They are fine for the market they are intended for. However, if you are in the upgrade mode, the biggest bang for the buck is in the lenses not the camera. Basing an upgrade question based on keeping these lenses isn't wise. Example if you bought the T8i vs your current T6i and kept the current lenses, the photos would hardly be noticeably better. Oh, yes you will get some upgraded features and such but the actual photos, not so much. The lens makes the shot.

"...will work with mirrorless camera body or not?"

I have not done it but they say you can adapt them to R series. They should work as well as they do now. But a true upgrade would be an R series camera with R series lenses.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

sportsMom4 — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 16:36:28 GMT

Staying with same camera body what would be a step or two upgraded in lenses

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

Waddizzle — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 21:22:04 GMT

@sportsMom4 wrote:
Staying with same camera body what would be a step or two upgraded in lenses

I think the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.6-5.6 IS STM lens is actually a pretty decent lens. But, I would definitely look to upgrade the 75-300mm lens. Most places are out of stock on the EF 70-300 Mark II lenses, which would be my first choice.

But, B&H Photo Video seems to have the EF 70-200 f/4L USM in stock, and on sale. Go for it!

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

ebiggs1 — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:43:30 GMT

"I think the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.6-5.6 IS STM lens is actually a pretty decent lens."

I agree! For what it is the standard kit lens(es) is pretty decent. However there are better options and lenses. These are the bottom of the Canon inventory of lenses. For people that just want a decent DSLR camera they are fine. They are not the best choice for a person that wants to upgrade.

The first and obvious upgrade in lenses is the outstanding Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens. It is a fast and constant f2.8 aperture. It is not cheap but quality and constant aperture is not easy to make.

"... B&H Photo Video seems to have the EF 70-200 f/4L USM in stock, and on sale."

Absolutely! Fantastic lens and super sharp. Again a fast f4 constant aperture. Plus is is "L" quality.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

Waddizzle — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 23:14:55 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"I think the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.6-5.6 IS STM lens is actually a pretty decent lens."

I agree! For what it is the standard kit lens(es) is pretty decent. However there are better options and lenses. These are the bottom of the Canon inventory of lenses. For people that just want a decent DSLR camera they are find. They are not the best choice for a person that wants to upgrade.
The first and obvious upgrade in lenses is the outstanding Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens. It is a fast and constant f2.8 aperture. It is not cheap but quality and constant aperture is not easy to make.

"... B&H Photo Video seems to have the EF 70-200 f/4L USM in stock, and on sale."

Absolutely! Fantastic lens and super sharp. Again a fast f4 constant aperture. Plus is is "L" quality.

I would be far more inclined to upgrade the 75-300mm first, though.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

FloridaDrafter — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 21:22:21 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
"I would be far more inclined to upgrade the 75-300mm first, though "

Totally agree. My wife uses the EF 70-300 f/4-5,6 IS USM (nano) II with her R6, with adaper obviously, and I am amazed at the IQ. She used it on a T7i, and although it was OK, it's much better oh the R6. She is disabled, so she needs something light and the T7i, R6 and the 70-300mm II are perfect for her. I have the 70-300 L, but it is just too heavy for her.

Obviously, L glass would be the best choice, but the non L version is still a good choice if you are on a budget, JMO.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

ebiggs1 — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:45:45 GMT

"I would be far more inclined to upgrade the 75-300mm first, though."

Me too! The ef 70-200mm f4L is just begging to come home with the her.

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

ebiggs1 — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:48:52 GMT

"...but the non L version is still a good choice if you are on a budget,..."

It is always a balance but upgrade means you want something that is better than you currently have. Still keeping or buying new bottom end lenses is not much of an upgrade. That is just an exchange!

Re: thinking of upgrading my EOS Rebel T6i camera

FloridaDrafter — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 23:06:12 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"...but the non L version is still a good choice if you are on a budget,..."

"It is always a balance but upgrade means you want something that is better than you currently have. Still keeping or buying new bottom end lenses is not much of an upgrade. That is just an exchange!"

The 70-300 mark II is a significant upgrade from the 75-300. I have both, the 75-300 came as a kit lens with a T4i I bought years ago. I quickly bought the 70-300 L, LOL! Yup, the 70-300 II is a budget lens, as mentioned, but it still has good IQ. It focuses extremely fast and nearly silent, has at least one UD element, IS is as good, maybe better, than my 70-300 L, but it's older, and has "full time MF" if that's your thing. It's just a nice budget lens and light as a feather, comparatively, (which is the reason my wife bought it) but far from being just an exchange.

I have tested it on my 7D2 and 5D4, for what it's worth, and it does a fine job, not L quality, but it's sometimes hard to tell the shots apart. I am the dreaded "pixel peeper" and I see the difference at 100%, heh heh. My wife bought it for her T7i and her images look pretty dang good, but remember, she is a retired pro photographer. It shines on her new R6 w/ring adapter.

Newton

**EDIT: to clarify, the 75-300 wasn't actually a "kit lens", that was an EF-S 18-55, but the guy at Wolf Camera threw it in to get me to buy the T4i 😉