topic Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii in General Discussion

upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

parmodmehta — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 14:45:39 GMT

Have T4i with 17-55 F2.8. Photos come out good and clear.

Thinking of upgrade to 5d mark ii, don't want to overspend on mark iii and beyond (yet)

Thoughts?

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

RobertTheFat — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 14:51:49 GMT

@parmodmehta wrote:
Have T4i with 17-55 F2.8. Photos come out good and clear.

Thinking of upgrade to 5d mark ii, don't want to overspend on mark iii and beyond (yet)

Thoughts?

That sounds to me like an upgrade in name only. And I wouldn't want to buy any used camera that Canon will no longer repair.

Note that you'd have to buy a new lens. Your 17-55 f/2.8 won't work on a 5D2.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

parmodmehta — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 14:56:57 GMT

Sure need lens upgrade.

What would you suggest?

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

RobertTheFat — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 15:05:00 GMT

@parmodmehta wrote:
Sure need lens upgrade.

What would you suggest?

As a lens for the 5D2? The EF 24-105mm f/4L.

As a camera upgrade? A refurbished 80D.

One other point: The T4i wasn't a very successful camera, back in its day. But as I recall, it was because its plastic covering tended to deteriorate and get sticky, not because it didn't take good pictures.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

parmodmehta — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 15:16:38 GMT

For the lens, I have been thinking EF 24-70mm f/2.8. The body I prefer a FF. What would you suggest to be a worthy FF upgrade over T4i?

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

parmodmehta — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 16:54:37 GMT

From the new camera I should be able to take good, clear, and crisp still pictures. I don't care much about WIFI, Video, or any fancy features. I take family pics in a variety of conditions - indoors, outdoors, dim light conditions, etc. T4i so far has served me well, after I upgraded the lens to Canon 17-55 f2.8 I was able to capture detailed pics in low light, those were quite challenges using the stock lenses.

I don't want to overspend, but I am not ready to compromise either. I am looking to invest in something that would work as much as T4i did for the next ten years or so.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

Waddizzle — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 17:13:20 GMT

EOS RP

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

RobertTheFat — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 19:20:33 GMT

@parmodmehta wrote:
For the lens, I have been thinking EF 24-70mm f/2.8. The body I prefer a FF. What would you suggest to be a worthy FF upgrade over T4i?

That's a fine lens, and it pairs nicely with the 70-200mm f/2.8L (of which there are at least two versions). But you say you're trying not to overspend, and neither of them is cheap.

The obvious FF cameras are the 5D Mk III and Mk IV and (if you want to be a pioneer) the new mirrorless R. For somewhat less money, there are the 6D Mk II and the mirrorless RP. I've never used the 6D2 or either of the R series cameras, but there are those in this forum who have.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

Waddizzle — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 23:11:58 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@parmodmehta wrote:
For the lens, I have been thinking EF 24-70mm f/2.8. The body I prefer a FF. What would you suggest to be a worthy FF upgrade over T4i?
That's a fine lens, and it pairs nicely with the 70-200mm f/2.8L (of which there are at least two versions). But you say you're trying not to overspend, and neither of them is cheap.

The obvious FF cameras are the 5D Mk III and Mk IV and (if you want to be a pioneer) the new mirrorless R. For somewhat less money, there are the 6D Mk II and the mirrorless RP. I've never used the 6D2 or either of the R series cameras, but there are those in this forum who have.

The full frame DSLRs mean giving up on using the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8. You can use an adapter with the R Series to use either EF or EF-S lenses. I think the RP is a really good upgrade path for Rebel users to a full frame body.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

kvbarkley — Mon, 12 Aug 2019 14:09:50 GMT

But the EF-S adapter will automagically give you an APS-C crop frame out of the FF sensor.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

Waddizzle — Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:12:47 GMT

“But the EF-S adapter will automagically give you an APS-C crop frame out of the FF sensor.”

Correct. It is an upgrade path to full frame bodies for people on a tight budget.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

ebiggs1 — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:42:51 GMT

"I wouldn't want to buy any used camera that Canon will no longer repair."

This is good advice however the 5D2 is still serviceable by other reputable service centers such as Midwest Camera. That said I really don't think it is the one you really want. If you can't pull the trigger for a 5D3, look at the 80D. It will do anything you want and you will be up and shooting without the lens purchase. This gives you time to get the "right" lens upgrade.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

ebiggs1 — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:46:45 GMT

Avoid the "R" series bodies at this point. Going from a T4i to a totally different system is more than just an upgrade. I don't like adapters of any kind, they are always a compromise and a pita.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

Stephen — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:57:40 GMT

Hi, Ernie!

While using adapters is usually not the way to go, the mount adapters that we've designed for the EOS R series were made specifically to add functionality, rather than take functionality away. They allow you to use every EF and EF-S lens on the new RF mount bodies. We also have a version that gives you control ring functions - on an EF/EF-S lens! You don't lose any light, electronic functions, or AF abilities. Using EF and EF-S lenses with a Canon mount adapter will work exactly the way they work natively on an EF body!

The RF lenses are the most advanced lenses we've ever made. Period.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

ebiggs1 — Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:07:43 GMT

"The RF lenses are the most advanced lenses we've ever made."

There is no doubt, Canon owns the camera lens market. It is the primary reason I choose to go Canon, way back, while working for a company that didn't. As for adapters or even tel-cons, I have never liked them.

It will probably take a "cannon" to change my mind.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

RobertTheFat — Thu, 15 Aug 2019 21:06:12 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"The RF lenses are the most advanced lenses we've ever made."

There is no doubt, Canon owns the camera lens market. It is the primary reason I choose to go Canon, way back, while working for a company that didn't. As for adapters or even tel-cons, I have never liked them.

It will probably take a "cannon" to change my mind.

I respect your opinion, Ernie; but my 81-year-old eyes can't tell the qualitative difference between pictures taken with my 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II lens with and without the 1.4x III adapter. If yours can, be sure to protect them from that Kansas sun.

Re: upgrade from T4i to 5d mark ii

ebiggs1 — Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:31:07 GMT

Again Robert it depends on how you intend to use the photo. But number one is the fact it is another piece to keep track of. BTW you picked one of the best examples to make the point.