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Canon Rebel XSI

emsplawn — Thu, 27 May 2021 20:47:14 GMT

Hello

I was wondering what is a good setting for taking pictures of a livestock show? My images are coming out really blurry.

Thank you in advance

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

FloridaDrafter — Thu, 27 May 2021 21:07:01 GMT

@emsplawn wrote:
Hello
I was wondering what is a good setting for taking pictures of a livestock show? My images are coming out really blurry.
Thank you in advance

It could be the lighting and the shutter speed just isn't fast enough. I have the XSi, and it is capable of taking nice shots.

If you don't mind, please give a little more info, i.e., what mode are you using, lens, and a sample shot would be great (try to leave EXIF info intact so some one can see your camera/lens settings). I shot with the XSi and, at first, used full auto (the little green square) or P. P will allow you more control over shutter/ISO/aperture.

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

kvbarkley — Thu, 27 May 2021 21:07:42 GMT

It depends why they are coming out blurry.

Can you post some samples?

I am going to guess that you need to set the ISO to the max - which is not very high on an XSi - and try to get a 1/200 focal speed or so. What is the focal length of your lens?

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

emsplawn — Thu, 27 May 2021 21:11:05 GMT

I will take pictures of it tonight, I am extremely new at this. This was my mother in laws camera, she passed away and my father in law gave it to me. I am trying to use TV mode and it is a long lense ( i think i'm using the right word)

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FloridaDrafter — Thu, 27 May 2021 21:16:26 GMT

@emsplawn wrote:
I will take pictures of it tonight, I am extremely new at this. This was my mother in laws camera, she passed away and my father in law gave it to me. I am trying to use TV mode and it is a long lense ( i think i'm using the right word)

Perfect. I'm sure someone will be able to give you some tips to try. A balance of ISO and shutter will probably be the answer. Also, which lens (brand/mm).

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

ebiggs1 — Fri, 28 May 2021 14:54:50 GMT

"I am trying to use TV mode and it is a long lense ..."

Most likely the wrong mode to use for what you are doing. Try P mode first off with a high ISO number. Keep in mind as ISO numbers go up, usually grain will begin to be more apparent. It may or may not be a problem. Depends on what you expect and want.

If you have a lens with a long focal length (FL), say 200mm+ it may be impossible to get super sharp indoor photos. Where you are shooting from can also be an issue. Closer is always better. Try making sure the shutter speed (SS) matches your focal length (FL). I.E., a FL of 200mm should have a SS of at least 1/200.

The solution is more light, a faster lens and/or a better ISO ability camera. Simple! Good luck and do show some samples as they might help with a better resolution to the problem.

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

emsplawn — Fri, 28 May 2021 14:55:51 GMT

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

ebiggs1 — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:03:57 GMT

Yes I see your SS is far too low. Keep the FL to SS about the same. Example, at 55mm try to be at or above 1/55, probably 1/60 on your XSi. At the 250mm end you need to keep it at or above 1/250 or the closest next higher SS.

I did not see your ISO setting in the samples but it needs to be a high number, too.

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

emsplawn — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:04:56 GMT

How do I set the Ss

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emsplawn — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:05:47 GMT

I have my ISO at (I think) the highest it’ll go

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ebiggs1 — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:06:22 GMT

Keep in mind all camera/lens gear has it limits. With what you have and not having the ability to alter or add more light to the arena, you may have exceeded the limits of your gear.

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

ebiggs1 — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:10:07 GMT

"How do I set the Ss"

If you select Tv mode you have to select a SS. I thought you said that is the mode you used? Did you set a SS?

If you select Av mode you set an aperture, usually the lowest number on your lens, the XSi will then automatically set the fastest SS it can for proper exposure.

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

emsplawn — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:12:18 GMT

Ok. I just played with it lol I don’t know exactly what I did

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ebiggs1 — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:13:16 GMT

"I have my ISO at (I think) the highest it’ll go"

If memory serves me, I believe the XSi has a max ISO of 1600. Try that. It may have too much grain but than again you won't know until you try it. You still need to match SS to FL. That is key to sharp photos.

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emsplawn — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:14:10 GMT

That’s what I don’t know how to do

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ebiggs1 — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:20:50 GMT

These settings are all done in the menus. I suggest you download the manual from Canon to see exactly how the menus work.

Here is how I would set it up. I would use Av mode and set it to the lowest number on your lens. I think that is f4 or perhaps f5.6. Now you don't need to set the SS, the XSi will, but you do need to set the ISO to 1600. Give this a try next time.

However this is for poor lighting circumstances. If you have a better lighted place these settings will need to be changed.

If you use it outdoors on nice days or even cloudy ones simply use the P mode. And set ISO to 200 or 400 instead of 1600.

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ebiggs1 — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:25:07 GMT

BTW, P mode sets both aperture and SS for you automatically. But it is exposure based and does not take other factors into account. Action or movement for instance.

ISO 200 is a good general setting. It assumes decent lighting.

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ebiggs1 — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:29:38 GMT

Rebel XSi manual<---click on this

Re: Canon Rebel XSI

emsplawn — Fri, 28 May 2021 15:33:01 GMT

Thank you so so much

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FloridaDrafter — Fri, 28 May 2021 20:22:55 GMT

@emsplawn wrote:
That’s what I don’t know how to do

Sorry for the long winded post, but I cut my digital teeth, so to speek, with this camera and I almost feel obligated to share my experience 🙂

I know you are in the process of getting the manual, at least I hope so, but I'll tell you how to do this, just in case.

As mentioned, I own this camera and shot with it for a year or so, but it's been a while and it's in my camera collection now.

First, right behind the shutter is a dial/wheel. When in any of the "creative" modes (Tv,Av,M, and sometimes P), that wheel will adjust the settings for whatever mode you are in, for example, if you are in Tv mode, it will raise or lower your shutter speed, when in Av it will adjust your aperture, and so on. Behind that wheel is a button labeled "ISO". Push that and you will get a screen with your ISO options, Auto - 100 through 1600. Just in case you don't understand ISO, it adjusts the sensitivity of your sensor to light. You will have to toggle (press) the DISP. (Display) button to see this and it's in the upper left just beside the MENU button. Once the ISO screen displays, use the aforementioned wheel to scroll through your options, then press the "SET" button when on the ISO setting you want. ISO can be set in "P", but not in AUTO (the green square. You can also see this info in the viewfinder, it will be displayed in green just under your image. This will allow you to change settings "on the fly" without having to look at the back of the camera while using the wheel.

As Ernie mentioned, your shutter speed is way too low for that particular lens and venue. It appears to be the original kit lens, which although pretty good at the time, has fallen way behind in both image quality and image stabalization (IS), the latter being the most important in your situation. The newer model has an "STM" focus system (and better IS), and I don't see that [STM] on the lens.

FOR THIS CAMERA AND LENS:

As for which mode, I would use Tv and experiment with ISO. Maybe Tv 200 and ISO 800. I do use Av on some of my other cameras, which allows you to adjust your Depth of Field (DOF), for macro and any other shot I take when using a tripod and don't particularly care how fast my shutter speed is. Av, adjusted properly, will give you better DOF but will also decrease the amount of light that hits your sensor, i.e., greater DOF - less light, and in your case low shutter speeds. Some photographers use Av for action, but they have high end cameras that will handle high ISO, but even they usually have to remove noise in post processing for shots with high shutter speeds. When I was using this camera with a 70-300mm lens, I usually stayed on ISO 400 and 800, but I was shooting birds and usually in a dark forest environment. ISO noise was acceptable, for me anyway, but as mentioned, noise would increase with shutter speeds, say Tv 1/800th / ISO 800, and 1600 was not acceptable for me, ever.

Now, something you should consider is shooting Raw+Jpeg (RAW+L in your menu - very 1st setting under "Quality") and downloading Canon's free Digital Photo Pro 4 (DPP 4). With this program you can use lens correction, noise reduction, along with other settings to improve your images. You may even find that just shooting Raw, which I ended up doing, will give you the best images and control. From looking at your photos, besides them having motion blur, the "White Balance" setting in DPP (or your camera for that mater) will help. Yes, it's just something else to learn, but it's pretty simple to use and has a manual, plus a pile of youtube tutotials. If you plan to continue using this camera/lens combo in this type of environment, you need some post processing even if you get your shutter speed up. Use the camera to get the best shots you can, then edit the Raw files in DPP 4.