topic Re: 90D Shutter count in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

90D Shutter count

Mathiman58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 09:38:21 GMT

Hi I'm brand new to this and not very Tech Savvy so please excuse my ignorance. I own a Canon 90D and I am finding it impossible to get the shutter count from it? I have tried every online solution, watched every Youtube video, tried every online Shutter count application and downloaded every Canon software available. I was reliably informed that the EOS Utility would do the trick but the download I did does not have the Utility 3 option which, apparently is the one I need? I have tried the Canon connect app on my phone but the shutter count info doesn't show? I have tried to get it via Lightroom and Photoshop but that doesn't work either? When I download the Canon Digital Info software it wont recognise my camera? I am very frustrated and confused and am almost at the point of giving up on Canon for another brand. Can someone please help me? Remember to keep your reply simple, I'm not very bright it seems? Thanks

Re: 90D Shutter count

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 09:44:40 GMT

There is little reason to know the shutter count, but if that is something you want to obtain the only software I am aware of that is reliable is for macOS or iOS. Look into ShutterCount by Dire Studio.

Re: 90D Shutter count

Tronhard — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 09:51:06 GMT

Is there a specific reason you need a shutter count?

If you got the Camera from new, and have not changed the file numbering features or put in a card with files from another camera with then most likely the shutter count is the file name. When you take a photo it is stored on the card within a folder called 100, and within that the numbering goes -####. So the first folder numbering would be from 0001 to -9999 and then a new folder 101 would be created with the #### starting again at 001. You can see this by looking at the file view interface on the camera (press Info to rotate through different information screens), or if you put the card in a computer, the folders should be numbered as indicated, with the files inside.

While there is a Mac program that will apparently give a shutter count, I don't use that system, so can't comment on its veracity. Really, if you want a totally accurate shutter count then the best thing is to have Canon look at it: they have in-house tools that will verify the shutter count, but they are not available to consumers.

Re: 90D Shutter count

Mathiman58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:38:39 GMT

Hi thanks for the reply. The reason I'm trying to find the shutter count is that I may sell up and upgrade to another camera and the first question I get asked by potential buyers is "what is the shutter count?" I will look into the software you have recommended but I'm a bit reluctant as any software I ahve previously purchased has not worked. The annoying thing is that the person I bought this camera from showed me how to find the shutter count via the photo's he had saved on the Canon Connect app, but when I do it, it doesnt show up? Thanks for your help though.

Re: 90D Shutter count

Mathiman58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:40:11 GMT

Hi thanks for the reply. The reason I'm trying to find the shutter count is that I may sell up and upgrade to another camera and the first question I get asked by potential buyers is "what is the shutter count?" I have tried to make sense of the information you have provided but as I said in my query, I'm not tech savvy and didnt understand some of it? Sorry. I appreciate you spending the time to reply though. The annoying thing is that the person I bought this camera from showed me how to find the shutter count via the photo's he had saved on the Canon Connect app, but when I do it, it doesnt show up? Thanks for your help though.

Re: 90D Shutter count

rs-eos — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:58:09 GMT

You could always just estimate it. If you know the original value of the count as given to you from the prior owner, then add to that the total number of images you've taken over the years. Even if that's just a guess as how many images you've taken per month or per year.

Re: 90D Shutter count

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:20:02 GMT

That individual was either misinformed or misleading you. Shutter count information is not retrievable from an image file.

Dire Studio ShutterCount does work.

Re: 90D Shutter count

Tronhard — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:49:22 GMT

Perhaps if I explain the process differently... This is the best attempt you have to obtain a value without going to Canon.

Take a photo.
Use the button with the blue arrow on it to view the image. When that is displayed you should see one of the screens in the image below.
If the shutter count (as indicated by the red arrow on the diagram) does not show, then press the Info button (see image below) on the back of the camera until it does.
The last four digits in that sequence are likely your shutter count. If it is greater than the number when you first bought the camera it is likely correct. For further assurance, if you still have a photo you took when you first got the camera, check that the number of the file name is smaller than the one on your screen.

It will help you now, and for resale purposes to have a copy of the user manual, which will tell you all about the camera. HERE is a link to that manual. On the top right of the screen, there is a disc icon (3rd from right) click on that to download it to your computer. It might be worth looking through that.

Re: 90D Shutter count

Stephen — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:55:09 GMT

This number is resettable and only goes up to 9999. If the user has ever reset it or has taken over 9999 photos, it will roll over (like a car's odometer), however, for most, it's fairly accurate. If you want the most accurate number, you'll need to send it to our Factory Service Center to be cleaned - they'll give you the shutter count when they attach the camera up to the diagnostic computer. You can get the process started within your My Canon Account at canon.us/account

The last I checked, a cleaning was about $60, but it might have changed since then (I'm not in support anymore)!

Re: 90D Shutter count

Tronhard — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 20:04:02 GMT

Yes but in the case that it exceeds 9999, the number will go from 100-9999 to 101-0001, won't it? I tried to explain address the reset option via my first post, it's all too much for the OP, I suspect.

Re: 90D Shutter count

Mathiman58 — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 20:05:34 GMT

Thank you for this. I will try this when I get home. Much appreciated

Re: 90D Shutter count

Stephen — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 20:07:44 GMT

Yup! But that number isn't intended to be a shutter count, it's intended to be a file number, and it can be reset based on the card, project, or anything.

Like I said - the file number is usually enough for most, but if a buyer is being finicky, the only way to get a truly accurate count is from the shop. 😊

Re: 90D Shutter count

Tronhard — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 20:11:53 GMT

Totally agree, and you are right to point out the absolutely approved process, but given the level of sophistication of the OP, I hope this will be sufficient for their needs! 🤔

Re: 90D Shutter count

Stephen — Tue, 28 Jun 2022 20:13:57 GMT

Me, too! I just wanted to let them know we can help, just in case a buyer gave them a hard time! 😉

Re: 90D Shutter count

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 29 Jun 2022 00:02:59 GMT

OP said he bought the camera used. File numbers and folders would very likely be irrelevant in that case since the would be little knowledge of what the original owner did.

Re: 90D Shutter count

Tronhard — Wed, 29 Jun 2022 02:19:25 GMT

I appreciate that. I was trying to find out an easy solution for them. Of course the most correct course of action is to take it to Canon to get a shutter count, but the OP bought it without a certified one apparently and I wonder how many others will be prepared to do the same. Anyway, they know the correct course of action now and that's down to them.

Re: 90D Shutter count

SanjeedDhBD — Tue, 20 Sep 2022 16:35:03 GMT

Thank you for the help in finding out the shutter count on the upper right hand side of image replay on the rear LCD.

However, it's a four digit field. My camera will soon hit ten thousand actuations. What happens then? Will the field be expanded to five digits? The shutter life of this camera is rated at 120000 actuations. That means; a six digit field is necessary.

Any suggestions re the above? Thank you in advance.

Re: 90D Shutter count

SanjeedDhBD — Tue, 20 Sep 2022 16:46:14 GMT

Previously, a third party application in the name CanonEosDigitalInfo was available free on the internet. I have it on my computer and can easily find shutter counts of all my Canon DSLRs 5DII, 5DIII, 1DIV, 7D and 70D. But it failed to get it for 90D. Couldn't find an updated version of that application on the net either.

Here is an example of the screen when I ran the app in May '22.

Re: 90D Shutter count

Tronhard — Tue, 20 Sep 2022 18:05:01 GMT

If you look at that number, it is preceded by a set of three digits, e.g. 100- #### that 100 counter will simply increase by 1 and the right-hand set will start at 0001 again: thus 100-9999 goes to 101-0000

Re: 90D Shutter count

vedran-brnjetic — Thu, 07 Dec 2023 01:49:41 GMT

Only if you never remove any photos from the camera. If you format the SD card it goes back to 100. The "100" part is basically the folder. The point is you will never know if or how many times did it go over 9999.

As someone with multiple cameras, multiple SD cards... this is extremely flimsy and should never be relied upon.