topic Re: Canon 4000D in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Canon 4000D Movie Recording Stopped Automatically

atlasisntaround — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:19:42 GMT

When I stream my canon EOS 4000D comes up with a message when i record after 15 minutes or so, saying 'movie recording stopped automatically', since you need to be recording in movie mode for the camera to work as a webcam. I have spent hours looking for a solution, like changing my shooting size and bitrate, and my SD card is very large so i doubt that is the problem. To be specific its a sandisk extreme pro 12GB, 170MB/s SD XC. Ive also seen that you can download utility software for your camera model, but there isnt one for the 4000D camera. I really dont know how to keep streaming/recording without the message coming up every 10 minutes.

Re: Canon 4000D

Tronhard — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 23:17:58 GMT

The camera has two limitations built into it, as I understand it. One is the limit of 29'59" which was imposed by the EU to differentiate true video cameras from DSLRs that do video. The former attract a much higher duty rate, and Canon adopted that limit to avoid the tax. Remember a DSLR is a stills camera that can do some video.

The other limitation is a 4 GB video max file size. Both of these are described in your manual on P167. There is no way to get around those, and you are most likely hitting the individual file limit. If all you want to do is use a webam and not record, then I would suggest get a dedicated webcam - they are built for the job. If you want to record for longer periods then you need to look at other camera models.

Re: Canon 4000D

NatalyaP — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 01:47:52 GMT

Greetings, atlasisntaround

I agree with the information that Tronhard was able to provide to you. The EOS 4000D is an international model of the EOS Rebel T100 that is meant to be sold in the United States. Per review of page 167 of the user guide, the camera will stop recording video if the file size reaches 4GB in size or when reaching 29 minutes and 59 seconds, whichever comes first.

https://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/1/0300029791/01/eos-rebelt100-3000d-im-en.pdf

Re: Canon 4000D

kvbarkley — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 01:59:43 GMT

If the camera is supported by Canon's Webcam Utility:

Webcam Utility

You can stream as long as you want. I just used my T6S to livestream a graduation that lasted an hour or so.

Re: Canon 4000D

Tronhard — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 02:21:06 GMT

I checked the Canon Website and the EOS 4000D is not on the list of supported cameras for Canon's Webcam utility, while your T6s is. They do not appear to be the same camera. The 4000D is an 18MP unit while the T6s is a 24MP unit equivalent to the EOS 8000D. So not a match from what I can see.

Re: Canon 4000D

kvbarkley — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:06:48 GMT

I know they are not the same camera, I was just saying that if it was on the list, problem solved.

Re: Canon 4000D Movie Recording Stopped Automatically

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jul 2022 20:12:59 GMT

I thought that to use the webcam utility, that you need to be in live view mode, not video recording mode. Try live view mode instead.

Re: Canon 4000D Movie Recording Stopped Automatically

Tronhard — Fri, 22 Jul 2022 20:20:53 GMT

When you record a video, the camera uses the sensor directly. Live View mode is for when you taking stills and want to bypass the optical viewfinder system. The duration of recording limit has absolutely nothing to do with the live view mode.

Did you review the other posts in this thread where this was explained???

Re: Canon 4000D Movie Recording Stopped Automatically

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jul 2022 20:38:52 GMT

"since you need to be recording in movie mode for the camera to work as a webcam"

I don't believe that this is correct.

To use the webcam, you don't need to record, only be in live view. Yes, I read the other posts. They are all talking about recording limitations. The OP only wants to use the webcam as far as I can determine. No recording is necessary.

Re: Canon 4000D Movie Recording Stopped Automatically

Tronhard — Fri, 22 Jul 2022 20:57:56 GMT

It won't work as a webcam without going into video recording unless other software is used: simply putting the camera into live view mode will achieve nothing - which is all you suggested, and I and Canon tech support will confirm is not, on its own a solution. Canon's streaming video software is not available for this model, but the user could download an open source programs called OBS Studio. This uses the live view mode and allows streaming, but one needs a compatible HDMI cable that supports codecs for video and audio.

Re: Canon 4000D Movie Recording Stopped Automatically

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:17:13 GMT

I am fully aware of the fact that third-party software is needed. The whole gist of this thread seemed to be about the need to record in the camera in order to live stream and the file size limit was being reached and shutting off the recording. This is not correct. You only need to be in live view to use the canon webcam utility to be used with a third party live streaming software (such as OBS). The point I am trying to make is that video recording with the camera is not needed, only live view mode. The Canon webcam utility will automatically put the camera in live view when connected to the computer using a usb cable. You may be correct his camera is not compatible, but the OP seems to have it working with a recording limitation due to file size of the recording. I am trying to help by suggesting that he not be in record mode on the camera while live streaming. I have used the Canon webcam utility to live stream, so I am giving correct information.