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Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Bohica — Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:19:02 GMT

I just bought an RP brand new.

I have noticed a lot of banding in the shadows.

I tried multiple settings but noting seems to help..

+ I'm noticing that there is an issue with the black clipping in these same areas.

--- Here are some picture to show the problem.

( the only edit made is raised shadows to show the issue !)

--- And the pictures with people in it are to show the clipping problem..

Still showing clipping warnings + banding after raising exposure and/or shadows...

(the original picture with no edit is to show the level of clipping strait out of camera.)

***If someone can help i would really appreciate 😉 ***

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

rs-eos — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 00:11:47 GMT

This particular scene's dynamic range is very high and beyond the limits of what the camera can capture (dark interior areas with very bright window area). What was captured looks OK to me. No doubt some blacks will be crushed in this scene along with having blown out highlights.

Are you capturing your images in RAW or JPEG? RAW will give you more editing capabilities, but scenes such as this one will still present challenges.

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Bohica — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 00:28:47 GMT

Capturing in raw. the settings appears on the right of the pictures..

The problem appears also when doing landscape outside. i chose this picture beacause its easy to see.

I had a 13 years old Olympus micro 4/3 camera before buying this one. And i have taken a lot of pictures with very high dynamic range and also high contrast for B/W, I never had any type of bending or noise like this.. Even if i push the editing to the MAX.. never even came close to seeing any bending or noise like this..

I'm sorry but .. i dont think its acceptable this kind of performance from a recent full frame when my old Olympus as still FAR better performance then this... and it was the professional model either...

By the way .. this happens whenever i have any type of shadows / dark section in the pictures....

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Bohica — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 00:59:18 GMT

here i got some examples of pictures taken with the old camera.. I had to lift the shadows quite a bit in these ones.. i dont see anything close to this..only shadows lifted to 100.raw unedited for example..

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:27:14 GMT

If I were you I would go back to where I bought it and try a second one. If you are still not happy return it before the exchange window closes.

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Peter — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:35:02 GMT

Same sensor generation as 6D from 2012.

Don't you have any raw files to upload?

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Bohica — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 12:09:33 GMT

These were all raw files but had to export as jpg to upload in this chat. there is a size limit..

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Peter — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:28:21 GMT

What about a file host?

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Bohica — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 17:03:29 GMT

Here. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnF4Agrq8iuEgYdQAfuBuHzEDhPVOA?e=hdlekF

I have recreated a picture i had taken to test the shadows on my old olympus.

both raw. same settings.

U will see that it doesnt matter if u up the exposure OR the shadows, the olympus doesnt have any banding and the black clipping alert goes away when upping the shadows/exposure.

On the canon, u will get banding when u up shadow OR exposure..

The other picture is to show that even in a regular picture where there is practicly no black clipping, u can still start to see banding when u up exp/shadows.. (look at the pants of the lady)

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 19:42:03 GMT

I processed the image in Canon DPP4 and Lightroom Classic.

The shadow warning threshold in DPP4 was "0". I don't know what the trigger setting is in LrC, bit the RGB values were less than 1% in the area that was alerting.

To me both images look fine.

As I said in a previous post since you are not happy with the camera take it back now for a refund. If you don't you will suffer from analysis paralysis on every shoot and spend all your time looking for faults.

Olympus makes fine cameras; use it and enjoy your hobby.

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Peter — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 20:23:12 GMT

The banding is worse than with my 6D. Download my raw file and check the black areas I marked. Bright those up.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w42WwVGrH54zAvbALaFOV6jR6bej_yVV/view?usp=sharing

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Bohica — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:45:19 GMT

Well, im not sure it is even comparable loll

i had to push the shadows to 100 and the exposure + 3. before i can really notice the banding.

at that point every color looks white loll i dont think youll ever need to go that far 😛

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Peter — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 05:40:04 GMT

Exactly. Your RP is worse ^^

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Pharis3950 — Tue, 07 Jun 2022 21:12:36 GMT

Me too!

I'm sorry that some of your responses sound like people in an Apple forum where they seem to defend every camera as if someone having a problem destroys the whole brand rep in their mind. This isn't acceptable - I don't care what anybody else says. And it's not a Canon thing - I think it's an RP thing. I've owned a T2i, 60D, 70D, RP and now R6. The RP is the ONLY camera that did this to me. I took pictures of my graduation outdoors, in RAW format, and all the navy blue outfits were wrecked! Banding everywhere, from a brand new camera! I felt so betrayed. I tried to like that camera, but I hate it. It's a toy and I started voluntarily using my 70D again to regain my sanity. Finally, I just bought a R6 and life was better. I think even the R doesn't have this problem - it's an actual defect, regardless of what anybody says. Even my G15 point and shoot didn't do this.

Re: Canon EOS RP. Bad banding issue and black clipping.

Pharis3950 — Tue, 07 Jun 2022 21:13:49 GMT

Sorry - my reply is earlier in the thread. I maybe should've put it here, but it's just an amen. Despite any gaslighting, it isn't the range, it's the camera. My only one of like 5 Canons to do this.