topic Re: Copyright notice oddity in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Copyright notice oddity

RobertTheFat — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 00:09:48 GMT

All Canon midrange and high-end cameras allow you to provide a character string to be incorporated as a copyright notice in the Exif data of every picture the camera takes. A selection of ASCII characters is provided for use in forming the notice; but strangely, the internationally recognized "©" character that identifies a copyright notice isn't one of them. If you try to include it in the character string uploaded to the camera, it is ignored. I guess it's not a huge deal, but it seems like a silly oversight that could be remedied in any firmware update.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

Waddizzle — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:36:22 GMT

I don't have the right camera on hand to check to see what is stored inside of it, but I looked at copyright notice in several files using DPP4 and they all have the same format.

[c] 2015 CompanyName, LLC

All of mine look like that. I had suspected that software packages might add the copyright symbol when the information is more formally displayed. But, that is how it is shown in the "File Info" window of DPP4. I know for certain that I have the year included, but I am not so sure about the first part.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

ebiggs1 — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:37:05 GMT

Bob from Boston,

It displays correctly in Lightroom and Photoshop. But I guees one would expect it to.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

Waddizzle — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:07:49 GMT

I see the same text in both DPP and LR6

[c] 2015 CompanyName, LLC

Like I said, I wish I had the camera on hand so that I could interrogate what is stored inside of it.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

ebiggs1 — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:34:37 GMT

That is an LR6 sample I displayed. It shows correctly. Do you know how to make your personal meta file?

Re: Copyright notice oddity

Waddizzle — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:00:25 GMT

No, I have only just begun to explore the metadata stuff and stamping files with copyright information. That would be nice, stamping photos with metadata.

I am almost certain that I encountered Bob's issue with my T5. I think I just simply copied the same info into my 6D without trying to insert the copyright symbol at all.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

ebiggs1 — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:02:49 GMT

You need to create a meta file and make a preset out of it.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

Waddizzle — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:25:50 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
You need to create a meta file and make a preset out of it.

Hmm. Sounds like I'm going to have a busy winter, even if I can't get out and do some walking.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

ebiggs1 — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:38:01 GMT

We are having an ice storm. Probably loose electricity soon. I am too old to get out in it.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

RobertTheFat — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:33:43 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
I don't have the right camera on hand to check to see what is stored inside of it, but I looked at copyright notice in several files using DPP4 and they all have the same format.

[c] 2015 CompanyName, LLC

All of mine look like that. I had suspected that software packages might add the copyright symbol when the information is more formally displayed. But, that is how it is shown in the "File Info" window of DPP4. I know for certain that I have the year included, but I am not so sure about the first part.

Interesting. Like you, I don't have a camera handy, but I just looked at some of my pictures using both DPP3 and DPP4, and saw no representation of the character in the copyright notices. That says that DPP isn't adding the character, so it must actually be in your notices. But I've tried to incorporate it into the notice on several cameras and seen nothing at all, either on the camera's LCD or using EOS Utility. Which suggests that if I had left the character in, I might have seen what you see using DPP. I'll try that, the first chance I get.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

TTMartin — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:59:32 GMT

From Canon DLC

Adding Copyright information to your images

You are correct no © symbol is available and obviously Canon is aware of that.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

ebiggs1 — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:14:47 GMT

It is really a moot point. It can be edited, added to or deleted at any time.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

RobertTheFat — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:12:25 GMT

@TTMartin wrote:
From Canon DLC

Adding Copyright information to your images

You are correct no © symbol is available and obviously Canon is aware of that.

Interesting article. Thanks for pointing it out.

While the article admits that Canon cameras don't let you incorporate the copyright symbol, it doesn't say that you can't do it with EOS Utility or how it is displayed if you do. Ernie's experience with Lightroom suggests that it can be there (since LR appears to display it correctly). I'll have to run some more tests.

The reason I'm so interested in the copyright notice is that I routinely switch between two notices, one for work and one for personal photography. (Via EOSU, of course; I'm not about to type it in from scratch each time!) So I'd like to see the camera able to retain two notices, with a menu option to switch between them. While my situation may be unusual, it certainly can't be unique, so maybe others would like to join me in lobbying Canon for this improvement.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

Waddizzle — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:57:10 GMT

@TTMartin wrote:
From Canon DLC

Adding Copyright information to your images

You are correct no © symbol is available and obviously Canon is aware of that.

"Enter copyright details: Ditto. The only noteworthy thing here is that even though there are special typographic symbols, there is no official Copyright symbol, “©”. Instead, if you don’t want to spell out the word “copyright,” you can use either parentheses or brackets around a lowercase letter “c”. Here and in the Author’s name area, you can enter up to 63 characters, including blank spaces."

DING! Yes, I've read that article before. It is probably where I got the idea to include my "prefix" that I posted.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

Waddizzle — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:00:44 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
It is really a moot point. It can be edited, added to or deleted at any time.

@Bob. It's a safe bet that the presets in Lightroom that Ernie mentioned can do exactly that to a batch of image of files all at once.

Re: Copyright notice oddity

ebiggs1 — Tue, 29 Dec 2015 00:16:56 GMT

A copyright meta file with 1, 2 or 10 or 100 different info can be done in LR as a preset. You can select whichever one you want to be applied to all or a single photo or a group of photos.