topic Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 04:36:11 GMT

My fiance and I bought a new R6 partially for the flippy screen so we can take selfies together. It's easiest to hold the camera by the lens when taking a selfie but then you can't click the shutter button. I like the 2 second timer option, but it 1)focuses 2)counts down 3) shoots. The order needs to be 1) count down 2)focus 3)shoot. See video link below for visual description:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9U5wdRW5RM

If Canon's reading this, can you please come up with a solution?

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Waddizzle — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 04:59:14 GMT

I'm sorry. I don't think that I understand your issue. What you think needs to be fixed? Are you complaining about the two second delay when using the two second shutter delay timer? ???

Have you downloaded a copy of the full User Guide from Canon Support? The camera can be remotely controlled using Bluetooth and a smart phone.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 11:09:58 GMT

@ws_archascents wrote:
My fiance and I bought a new R6 partially for the flippy screen so we can take selfies together. It's easiest to hold the camera by the lens when taking a selfie but then you can't click the shutter button. I like the 2 second timer option, but it 1)focuses 2)counts down 3) shoots. The order needs to be 1) count down 2)focus 3)shoot. See video link below for visual description:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9U5wdRW5RM

If Canon's reading this, can you please come up with a solution?

It is not a problem with the camera.

When you are in Auto AF mode the camera won't actuate the shutter button (and thus start the timer count down) unless the camera has achieved focus. Once the shutter actuates focus is locked.

You could try using manual focus mode, or as suggested, get a remote shutter release (cable or electronic).

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 19:02:47 GMT

So with my old Nikon the timer mode would count down from 10 to 0. At 0 it would focus one whatever it chose to focus on, which for a selfie was usually the camera holder's face and then take the photo. The canon doesn't do that. THe camera locks focus then counts down and then takes the photo. The problem with that is the subject matter/camera moves while the timer counts down and the subject falls out of focus. I don't think its a software glitch. I'm sure Canon programmed the camera to do it this way. I just want them to add an option where the camera doesn't achieve focus until after the timer counts down.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 19:07:19 GMT

Yeah I'm not saying this is a glitch. I'm sure it's designed this way deliberately, but Canon needs to add an option that allows for focusing after the timer counts down.

Yeah I can use my phone or a remote shutter, but the phone app is a pain to set up for one or two photos and in this modern age of camera phones a $2-3k camera should have the ability to count down then focus preferably while in face/eye track mode. My Nikon could do this so why can't my Canon.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Waddizzle — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 19:56:46 GMT

@ws_archascents wrote:
Yeah I'm not saying this is a glitch. I'm sure it's designed this way deliberately, but Canon needs to add an option that allows for focusing after the timer counts down.
Yeah I can use my phone or a remote shutter, but the phone app is a pain to set up for one or two photos and in this modern age of camera phones a $2-3k camera should have the ability to count down then focus preferably while in face/eye track mode. My Nikon could do this so why can't my Canon.

I am pretty certain that you did not mean to misspeak here. Your old Nikon DSLR did not have face/eye tracking.

Have you tried to turn off the eye/face tracking, and let the camera simply focus on what is closest to it?

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Ray-uk — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 20:45:13 GMT

@ws_archascents wrote:
in this modern age of camera phones a $2-3k camera should have the ability to count down then focus preferably while in face/eye track mode.

I'm not sure that Canon anticipated that anyone would spend that sort of money to take selfies.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 21:52:17 GMT

They did if they were including a flippy screen. Sometimes when you're traveling to remote places, you want to take a picture together and there's no one else to take your picture for you, you have to hold the camera yourself. Pretty simple concept.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 21:53:33 GMT

I did but that doesn't matter, the camera can still lose focus while it's moving and the timer is counting down.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Waddizzle — Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:02:54 GMT

@ws_archascents wrote:
I did but that doesn't matter, the camera can still lose focus while it's moving and the timer is counting down.

You did....? What did you do or try?

Which lens are you using? What is the MFD of the lens?

What AF Focus mode are you using? Which AF point(s) are enabled? What is your AF Case setting?

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Waddizzle — Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:09:54 GMT

@ws_archascents wrote:
They did if they were including a flippy screen. Sometimes when you're traveling to remote places, you want to take a picture together and there's no one else to take your picture for you, you have to hold the camera yourself. Pretty simple concept.

I think you are the problem. According to the video, the camera is "One Shot AF" mode. See the upper left corner.

Using "One Shot AF" means AF tracking is disabled. I think Nikon calls it "AF-S" mdoe. You want to use "Ai Servo" with a Canon body, which is equivalent to Nikon's "AF-C" mode.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:59:01 GMT

RF 24-105. Don't know MFD. If it can focus on my face before I extend my arm out then lose focus then MFD isn't the problem. Don't know answers to rest of your questions off top of my head.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Waddizzle — Thu, 24 Dec 2020 02:48:42 GMT

@ws_archascents wrote:
RF 24-105. Don't know MFD. If it can focus on my face before I extend my arm out then lose focus then MFD isn't the problem. Don't know answers to rest of your questions off top of my head.

"You did....? What did you do or try?

Which lens are you using? What is the MFD of the lens?

What AF Focus mode are you using? Which AF point(s) are enabled? What is your AF Case setting?"

There are two RF versions of the 24-105mm. One has a MFD, minimum focusing distance, of just over 5 inches while the other is just under 18 inches.

If you do not know the answers to the questions I underlined, then you need to find out. The answers to those questions will tell you wahy the camera is not behaving as you expect. I have provided the answer to the first question, One Shot AF.

If you do not have a full copy of the User Guide for the camera, then you should download it from the product support page for your camera model at Canon Support. For now, I suggest that you turn the top dial to Green A, and tell us what happen.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 04:57:22 GMT

Yeah cause vloging doesn't exist...

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:04:34 GMT

"I think you are the problem." Harsh, dude. I tried with in Servo mode as well. no difference

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Waddizzle — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:51:54 GMT

@ws_archascents wrote:
"I think you are the problem." Harsh, dude. I tried with in Servo mode as well. no difference

Doing this seems to work just fine for everyone else. Contact Canon Support.

[EDIT]. You had the camera in One Shot AF mode, and were complaining that it would not track a subject.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Waddizzle — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:50:19 GMT

@ws_archascents wrote:
Yeah cause vloging doesn't exist...

What happend when you turned the dial the Automatic, Green [A], mode? Did it work?

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

ws_archascents — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 05:00:13 GMT

Good suggestion, but no difference. Focus point stays locked while camera counts down. Yeah I called Canon help, but they said the camera doesn't do what I want it to, but he filed a new feature request.

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

Losart3d — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 04:46:58 GMT

I agree with the OP 100%
The order is broken
5D had the correct order
I’ve noticed this problem practicing self-portraits using the phone as a remote shutter

The cámara should lock focus on 0, not on 2 (or 10 in my case)

We need an option to fix this

I'm using
Eye detection
Continues to focus

Re: R5/R6 2 sec delay photo focus problem

CraigCohen — Sun, 07 Feb 2021 23:28:47 GMT

Put in manual and calculate DOF.