topic Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

settysphoto — Fri, 28 Aug 2020 21:05:42 GMT

I received my R5 yesterday and took it out for a test today.

I have found that the Lens IS is always active even when im not pressing any buttons.

I would like the IS to only be activated when im pressing down the shutter button but i haven't yet found out how to do this with EF lenses. Does anyone know how?

With the Lens disconnected you get the IS settings tab in the menu (page 252 in the manual) and you can turn it to "only for shot" which makes it only activate once you press the button but as soon as you reattach the lens this setting tab disappears from the menu & still has IS always activated so that makes me believe this option doesnt work with EF lenses.

The lens IS only turns off when the camera goes into stand by mode, soon as you press any button to wake the camera up it activates the IS. Its not a huge issue but it means it will be draining the battery for no reason.

This is the only issue i have ATM with the R5.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

Waddizzle — Fri, 28 Aug 2020 21:45:06 GMT

It is called "Continuous AF" in Canon DSLRs. The default setting is enabled. Go into the menus and disable it. I think setting a BBF control button just may disable it, too.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

settysphoto — Fri, 28 Aug 2020 21:49:27 GMT

I have this disabled, i also dont see how this effects IS? it it not continuing to auto focus.... The IS is always activated

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

Waddizzle — Fri, 28 Aug 2020 22:06:52 GMT

@settysphoto wrote:
I have this disabled, i also dont see how this effects IS? it it not continuing to auto focus.... The IS is always activated

I do not have the R5. Perhaps, they have added another setting specifically for IS. But, what makes you so certain that it is the IS that is making the noise. If it stops when the metering system goes idle, then that is the same behavior in DSLRs.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

settysphoto — Fri, 28 Aug 2020 22:11:52 GMT

When i turn IS off with the switch on the side of the lens it stops being active. There is a setting for IS like i stated in my original post but it doesnt seem to work with EF lenses as the setting vanishes when you attach a EF lens. Even if i switch to manual focus the IS is still making the noise and is activated

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

Peter — Sat, 29 Aug 2020 04:18:33 GMT

Same as with every mirrorless camera from Canon. M5 owner here with the same problem.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

Waddizzle — Sat, 29 Aug 2020 04:27:20 GMT

@settysphoto wrote:
When i turn IS off with the switch on the side of the lens it stops being active. There is a setting for IS like i stated in my original post but it doesnt seem to work with EF lenses as the setting vanishes when you attach a EF lens. Even if i switch to manual focus the IS is still making the noise and is activated

I guess that is one solution, turning off IS in the lens. Unlike many other major manufacturers, the lens is just about a completely independent device from the camera body. This behavior may be limited to just EF lenses with the adapter.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

PLee — Sat, 29 Aug 2020 18:31:59 GMT

@settysphoto wrote:
I received my R5 yesterday and took it out for a test today.

I have found that the Lens IS is always active even when im not pressing any buttons.

I would like the IS to only be activated when im pressing down the shutter button but i haven't yet found out how to do this with EF lenses. Does anyone know how?

With the Lens disconnected you get the IS settings tab in the menu (page 252 in the manual) and you can turn it to "only for shot" which makes it only activate once you press the button but as soon as you reattach the lens this setting tab disappears from the menu & still has IS always activated so that makes me believe this option doesnt work with EF lenses.

The lens IS only turns off when the camera goes into stand by mode, soon as you press any button to wake the camera up it activates the IS. Its not a huge issue but it means it will be draining the battery for no reason.

This is the only issue i have ATM with the R5.

There is no way to configure the R5 to have IS only active for the shot for any lens that has built-in IS, whether that lens is EF or RF mount.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

Waddizzle — Sun, 30 Aug 2020 10:09:23 GMT

@settysphoto wrote:
When i turn IS off with the switch on the side of the lens it stops being active. There is a setting for IS like i stated in my original post but it doesnt seem to work with EF lenses as the setting vanishes when you attach a EF lens. Even if i switch to manual focus the IS is still making the noise and is activated

What happens if you disable the IBIS?

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

JimFeet — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 23:47:53 GMT

Having just received my R5 I have to agree with your asssessment. This obviously poses a major battery drain and adds to the field workflow, especially if you expect to use the GPS feed from the Canon Connection app. I'm gonna need to pack a solar panel with my photo gear.

An awesome camera for sure but still with some issues that could be addressed in firmware.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

jgrabert — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:16:12 GMT

I just recieved my R5 and I am having the same issue. Do you have any updated information?

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

Waddizzle — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:46:48 GMT

@Peter wrote:
Same as with every mirrorless camera from Canon. M5 owner here with the same problem.

My M3 seems like it wants to do it, too, although I have used any IS enabled lenses with it. It makes noises with lenses without IS. IF you turn off Continuous AF, it stops.

People are certain that it is an IS issue, not AF. I would not know. If it stops when the camera goes idle, then I would not worry about it. The displays might consume more power than the lens motors. There's two of them.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

jgrabert — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:32:31 GMT

Definitely a lens IS issue. If I have lens IS switched to ON the IS continuoulsy makes noise. As soon as I switch IS OFF it stops. Continuous AF is disabled.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

JimFeet — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:47:37 GMT

All my EF-IS lenses (using Canon EF-RF adapter) activate IS continuously anytime our two R5's are powered on. Obviously this is a battery suck so I'm forced to use a 30 or 15 second Auto Power Off setting - obviously Power Off kills all IS and saves power. FWIW, IS also shuts down when reviewing images or when IS is turned off at the lens.

Since EF lenses lack communication contacts and firmware for full IS coordination, maybe Canon decided the only or best way to combine IBIS with EF-IS was to leave the latter enabled always. That way IBIS (which effect is fairly minimal for EF-IS lenses) doesn't have to wait for the lens to activate, find and lock on to a subject and present a stablized image to the IBIS. IBIS can only respond to what the lens shows it. Unfortunately, this doesn't allow us to choose between IBIS and lens IS since any EF lens with OS disables the IBIS option in the R5 menu - the lens OS on-off switch controls all IS, it's either both or none.

There's a YouTube video from Canon that offers a good description of how IBIS is coordinated with OS. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7KuUgUqOfk&feature=emb_logo]

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

Waddizzle — Sun, 29 Nov 2020 20:01:53 GMT

@JimFeet wrote:

There's a YouTube video from Canon that offers a good description of how IBIS is coordinated with OS. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7KuUgUqOfk&feature=emb_logo]

That's not the Rudy Winston video I once saw, but he describes only 3-axis IBIS control with EF mount lenses.

Re: R5 Image-Stabilization always active with EF lens

Saul1 — Thu, 03 Mar 2022 05:50:58 GMT

Ok I read and the problem with EF lens on r5 is the LCD while lcd active the camera is always focusing, if you set your LCD to turn off after 30 sec or off the IS will stop hunting 😉