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Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

mirajadesign — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 21:57:31 GMT

I am a longtime Canon user. I personally own 3 Canon EOS cameras. So naturally, when I decided to get into the world of live streaming I wanted to use the gear I already own. But as most of you know Canon self-limits some of their cameras that inhibit the ability to live stream natively (ie: no clean HDMI output, auto shutoff, manual focus only, etc..). Of course, you can do this with multiple capture cards which are not only expensive but extremely hard to find at the time of writing this post due to COVID.

I spent a lot of time and energy researching and trying to get my Canon gear to work. Well I am happy to share that I did it! I made it all work!

For live streaming with Canon EOS cameras, I have successfully been using ECAMM Live with my M50, 6DMKII, and 5DMKII all connected with USB cables.

No capture card needed. No EOS Utility needed. Clean HDMI. No auto-shutoff. Auto Focus works.

ECAMM Live is by far the best solution for using Canon cameras for live streaming. It just works the way you need it to. The only caveat is that it is MAC software only. I do not know how to do it with Windows.

I have my setup paired with an Elgato Stream Deck for scene changes. I even have 2 additional camera angles set up using a couple of iPhones. I have 5 camera angles all controlled with ECAMM via USB. Can't be beaten IMO. It also works as a virtual webcam so you can use your Canon cameras for things Zoom and Skype.

Sidenote: I did buy a Black Magic ATEM Mini hoping the Canon Cameras could go through it via HDMI. But the cameras kept auto shutting down and the HDMI is not clean, but there are workarounds. I could never get the 5DMKII to show the full screen. Apparently the ATEM thinks the 5DMKII outputs a 4:3 screen. So I guess I will stick with ECAMM because it works beautifully.

I hope this helps some of you looking to live stream with Canon Cameras. Good luck!

- Raja

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

kvbarkley — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 00:10:00 GMT

You are a day late. Canon just released a streaming app

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

mirajadesign — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:12:54 GMT

Sweet! Please link it. I would love to check it out.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

kvbarkley — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 02:41:35 GMT

Actually, the current version is Windows only, so your advice is still good. 8^)

https://a.pgtb.me/JCHJp2

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

mirajadesign — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 03:38:57 GMT

Thanks. I am still interested to check it out. Kind of just wish Canon would release firmware updates that would loosen up the noose on our cameras. But the live streaming app is a step in the right direction! Hopefully, they will release a mac version soon!

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

malmedia — Fri, 01 May 2020 10:55:06 GMT

As a work around, you can use OBS to stream or record the standard EOS Utility liveview mode.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

kristinh — Sun, 17 May 2020 05:19:55 GMT

Thanks, I will check this out. I've been trying to figure out the best way to do Zoom classes with two cameras plus a couple windows on a mac. There seem to be a lot of different possibilities, but now I am trying to figure out how to get the video content from my two cameras to my laptop. I was trying to figure out if EOS Utility can take two live cameras.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

kristinh — Sun, 17 May 2020 05:21:46 GMT

But you would have to buy a capture card to use OBS, right?

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

mirajadesign — Sun, 17 May 2020 12:21:06 GMT

To use OBS you would need to buy 2 capture cards if you have 2 cameras.

To answer your question about EOS utility, I could only get it to recognize 1 camera at a time. There is a Mac app called Camera Live that feels like beta software because it crashes a lot. You could use one instance of Camera Live and one instance of EOS Utility Live View screen captured with OBS. It can work. But I found it unreliable. I had to restart often when it crashed. I didn’t have any of these issues when I switched to ECAMM.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

malmedia — Sun, 17 May 2020 12:46:24 GMT

OBS can do screen or window capture. So with the standard Canon Utility on live view via USB, OBS can screen capture that for streaming.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

ruserious — Wed, 20 May 2020 11:04:12 GMT

Thanks for the encouragement on this. It's good to know the M50 will give clean HDMI and and go past 30 mins.

I also have an M50 and a StreamDeck, which covers both USB ports. Now, I want a second camera. My option appears to be a USB hub, and everybody I've come into contact with — online and off — says they are horrible and don't work.

Before I buy that second camera, I need to get some clarity on this subject.

Any thoughts? Would appreciate any info you can offer.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

kristinh — Wed, 20 May 2020 14:49:49 GMT

I just set up my ECamm and it works great so far. I am testing it with a classroom today. Thank you for the suggestion. Solves my problem for sure since I cannot get a capture card (video to sub-c converter) anywhere right now.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

Krondog — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 20:28:36 GMT

How were you able to get the different cameras to register independently? It only registers one of mine at a time, and it excludes all the other ones

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

rsmacleod — Sun, 14 Aug 2022 19:22:38 GMT

I have the Canon Webcam utility installed and am trying to capture video/audio to mix in iMovie and make teaching videos. I used to use Apple's own Quicktime for capture but it will not see the M50 I have connected. So I am looking for alternative screen capture tools. I tried Snagit and it also fails to find the camera. I tried mmhmm and it sees the camera fine but the videos it makes lack synchronization between audio and video (which I could fix in iMovie but this seems like an unacceptable hassle).

What other tools can people recommend for simple video (and audio) recording, not streaming, but just recording? As I say, Quicktime used to do all I needed but not with the M50/Canon Webcam Utility combination.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

AtticusLake — Sun, 14 Aug 2022 19:30:00 GMT

If your HDMI out is not clean, then yes you have an issue. But otherwise, don't be afraid of capture cards (or dongles). I routinely webcam my R5 using an HDMI capture dongle which cost 21 pounds, and just plugs into a USB port. It's USB C, but I use an adapter (five pounds) and plug it into a USB A port. Then it streams through OBS.

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

rsmacleod — Sun, 14 Aug 2022 20:20:39 GMT

Thanks, I have seen in videos that the capture cards will not generate a clean HDMI from my original version M50 so I am trying to use the Webcam Utility as the pathway. This scheme works, just not with all video capture software. Since my original post, I have finally taken the plunge with OBS, and so far, it seems to be very useful and will capture my video and audio. My previous hesitation was not because I was daunted by such a powerful tool (I am pretty computer-literate) but was trying to promote systems I could convince my colleagues were easily usable. I think avoiding OBS might have been a mistake (-:

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

AtticusLake — Sun, 14 Aug 2022 20:24:16 GMT

The capture card will pass through whatever is on the HDMI. You can tell whether the camera's HDMI output is clean or not by just plugging it into a TV or monitor.

As for OBS, I'm a recent user too, and yes, it does seem pretty cool -- specially for the price. Good luck!

Re: Live Streaming With Canon EOS Cameras - Yes you can do it! (Mac Only)

mirajadesign — Sun, 14 Aug 2022 23:03:57 GMT

Yeah, OBS is an incredibly powerful tool. It should do what you want. I am still using and loving ECAMM though. I even use it with the original M50 as my WebCam for zoom meetings!

As far as your colleagues go, they might find it a lot easier to use. It definitely has less of a learning curve than OBS. But if they are somewhat tech savvy and you’re willing to teach them it should work out.