topic 6D Mark II Wireless Flash in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

6D Mark II Wireless Flash

pyromra — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 20:58:24 GMT

I have a 6D Mark II paired with a 430 ex ii. I am using the Yungnuo 622c for wireless flash. The flash triggers and I can change everything via the on camera menu. When I make a change, I get an error that "This menu cannot be displayed. Incompatible flash or flash's power is turned off", but with my 60D, it doesn't complain. It is working as it always has on the 60D, just giving this ANNOYING error message. Is there a way to turn that message off? I know I don't have as many C.Fn when its using the 622c, and I am ok with that as long as it loses those messages

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

kvbarkley — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 21:13:10 GMT

The 6Dii is probably not compatible with that setup, you should use the camera controls.

Canon answered a similar question here:

https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Speedlites/Canon-550ex-speed-lite/m-p/297107#M3101

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

rs-eos — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 21:23:56 GMT

Keep in mind that you're also using non-Canon equipment as well. That can certainly introduce issues.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

kvbarkley — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 21:32:31 GMT

Except it appears he is using the 430EX to simply trigger the other flash, since a 430 cannot be a wireless master.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

pyromra — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:04:35 GMT

No, the 430 is the flash that I am controlling. The Yungnuo is just a wireless transceiver like a pocket king.

Like I said, it controls the flash perfectly fine just it did on my 60D. The only issue is how to get the camera to stop complaining that it can't access the custom functions.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

kvbarkley — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:14:58 GMT

Sorry, this was a mistype:

"you should use the camera controls"

should have been

"You should use the *flash* controls.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

Waddizzle — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:58:50 GMT

@pyromra wrote:
No, the 430 is the flash that I am controlling. The Yungnuo is just a wireless transceiver like a pocket king.

Like I said, it controls the flash perfectly fine just it did on my 60D. The only issue is how to get the camera to stop complaining that it can't access the custom functions.

If the Yungnuo is mounted on the flash shoe of the 6D2, try to power it up before you power up the camera.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

pyromra — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 23:22:43 GMT

Unfortunatly still no change... Since the flash accepts the changes and has the entire time, let me ask a better question...

Does anyone know how to supress that error message so I dont have to hit ok everytime I make a change?

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

kvbarkley — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 03:27:51 GMT

No, did you read my link?

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

Waddizzle — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:11:37 GMT

”No, did you read my link?”

It should work the way I think it is being used. It is wireless transceiver that is supposed to be TTL and E-TTL compatible. They are sold in pairs.

One unit sits on the flash shoe of the camera. The other is used as a hot shoe for the remote Speedlite.

I wonder if the flash works when it is placed directly on the hot shoe. No Yongnuo gear, at all.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

pyromra — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:46:19 GMT

"No, did you read my link?"

I did. The link you provided was for a flash that would not accept commands and would not fire. Mine changes settings and fires perfectly fine. The only issue is that with the Yungnuo in between the camera and the flash, some of the C.Fn options are gone and the camera is complaining. Those same options are missing when I use my 60D, but that camera doesn't complain...

"I wonder if the flash works when it is placed directly on the hot shoe. No Yongnuo gear, at all."

Yes, it works perfectly when there is no Yungnuo inbetween. It gives me more options within the C.Fn menu instead of the 3 with the Yungnuo in place...

Since the speedlite "works", meaning it fires and changes settings while using the Yungnuo wireless transceivers, I just want a way to supress the annoying message about the C.Fn options

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

Waddizzle — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 13:52:21 GMT

“I just want a way to supress the annoying message about the C.Fn options.”

That is not Canon’s problem. Yongnuo claims to be compatible with the Canon E-TTL protocol when in fact they are not fully compatible. I suggest you contact them about your issue.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

pyromra — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:12:20 GMT

I disagree that it's not canons problem. No error message on the 60D feet it gives me the 0 same options and works. 6D, works but annoying message. It's not the Yungnuo that gives the message, it's canon.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

RobertTheFat — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:23:11 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
“I just want a way to supress the annoying message about the C.Fn options.”

That is not Canon’s problem. Yongnuo claims to be compatible with the Canon E-TTL protocol when in fact they are not fully compatible. I suggest you contact them about your issue.

You have to admit, though, that it's odd that the 60D thinks the Yongnuo device is compatible, while the 6D2 thinks it isn't. Was something added to the E-TTL protocol between the 60D and the 6D2?

Or is the Yongnuo device offering the camera a compatibility list on which the 6D2 is simply too new to have been included? I suppose that's a possibility, however far-fetched.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

kvbarkley — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:15:49 GMT

Will you guys get this straight? He has a 430EX on the camera which he is using to trigger the Youngnuo! There is no non-canon gear attached to the camera.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

pyromra — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:19:52 GMT

"Will you guys get this straight?"

I'm literally telling you your not getting the setup correct. It goes like this 6D2>622c ~~~~~ 622c>430exii

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

RobertTheFat — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:30:24 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
Will you guys get this straight? He has a 430EX on the camera which he is using to trigger the Youngnuo! There is no non-canon gear attached to the camera.

"attached to the camera" isn't necessarily relevant, is it? Doesn't there exist a communication path between the Yongnuo and the camera?

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

kvbarkley — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:38:40 GMT

Thank you, that is much more clear than this:

"I have a 6D Mark II paired with a 430 ex ii. I am using the Yungnuo 622c for wireless flash"

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

Waddizzle — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:52:22 GMT

”The only issue is that with the Yungnuo in between the camera and the flash, some of the C.Fn options are gone and the camera is complaining. Those same options are missing when I use my 60D, but that camera doesn't complain..”

Herein lies the problem. The Yongnuo transceiver does fully conform to the Canon E-TTL protocol. The 60D does not care, while the 6D2 gives an error message.

Yongnuo needs a firmware update.

Re: 6D Mark II Wireless Flash

RobertTheFat — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 21:12:27 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
”The only issue is that with the Yungnuo in between the camera and the flash, some of the C.Fn options are gone and the camera is complaining. Those same options are missing when I use my 60D, but that camera doesn't complain..”

Herein lies the problem. The Yongnuo transceiver does fully conform to the Canon E-TTL protocol. The 60D does not care, while the 6D2 gives an error message.

Yongnuo needs a firmware update.

That doesn't quite compute. Did you mean the Yongnuo "does not fully conform"? If that's the case, and you're right about it, I still wonder: Has the E-TTL protocol changed between the 60D and the 6D2? Or is the 6D2 just more picky?