topic Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

whites photographed.turn out pale green

opal2324 — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:11:16 GMT

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

ScottyP — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:28:55 GMT

What camera?
Sounds like a white balance issue.
The auto white balance may fail to give correct results.
If you shoot RAW you have great latitude to adjust WB in post on the computer. If you shoot JPG you have less ability to adjust it afterward so it is more important to get it right in camera.
If you move into fluorescent lighting switch your WB to fluorescent if the LCD shows the auto WB is giving a bad color cast. There are settings for sunny cloudy shady tungsten flash etc.
personally this is a major reason I shoot RAW. I hate messing with this and frequently forget to do it or I guess wrong on what setting is right.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

ebiggs1 — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:50:47 GMT

What camera? I'll bet if you do a reset, this will correct itself. Depending on which camera, go into the menu and "Clear all settings".

Or, remove all the batteries in the camera over night. Buy a brand new memory card and formate it with the camera.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

Skirball — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:13:22 GMT

Most likely White Balance, as Scotty said. Traditional Fluorescent lights are actually green, and will turn skin a sickly color if you don't account for it with WB.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

ScottyP — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:38:10 GMT

Funny how things change. Years ago it seemed like orange color casts were a bigger problem than today, because tho old fashioned light bulbs were matching the tungsten WB setting. Nowadays the green color casts are more often the problem since current bulbs have gone compact fluorescent.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

RobertTheFat — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:05:12 GMT

@ScottyP wrote:
Funny how things change. Years ago it seemed like orange color casts were a bigger problem than today, because tho old fashioned light bulbs were matching the tungsten WB setting. Nowadays the green color casts are more often the problem since current bulbs have gone compact fluorescent.

CFs will soon be a thing of the past, now that the prices of LED bulbs are falling.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

ScottyP — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:36:17 GMT

I guess we'll need a firmware update then, to add "LED" to e menu of canned white balance settings?

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

Skirball — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:40:03 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@ScottyP wrote:
Funny how things change. Years ago it seemed like orange color casts were a bigger problem than today, because tho old fashioned light bulbs were matching the tungsten WB setting. Nowadays the green color casts are more often the problem since current bulbs have gone compact fluorescent.
CFs will soon be a thing of the past, now that the prices of LED bulbs are falling.

And good riddance.

I've been waiting for those LED prices to fall a bit more before biting the bullet and doing all the recessed lighting in my house. I'm sick of burning through those R20 bulbs.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

RobertTheFat — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:37:20 GMT

@ScottyP wrote:
I guess we'll need a firmware update then, to add "LED" to e menu of canned white balance settings?

Maybe not. My impression is that LEDs are much closer to having a sensible color temperature than fluorescents (including CFs) are. In my office at work I have a CF desk lamp and a pole lamp with three 8W(!) LED spotlights. To my eyes, the LEDs are a fair approximation of 60W tungstens, while the light from the desk lamp looks greenish. I don't recall having a chance to do a photo shoot in LED light, but I'd be surprised if it isn't more tractable than any form of fluorescent light.

It occurs to me that they just renovated our City Council Chamber, and I'll bet it now has LED lights. So I may have a chance to test my theory sooner rather than later. Even if the Chamber doesn't have LEDs, it'll be better than it was before. The old lighting was godawful, especially in the evening when there's little or no light from the windows. I sometimes had to ask for the TV lights, even when the event wasn't being televised.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

opal2324 — Sun, 01 Feb 2015 05:33:53 GMT

reble 1000d.Have played with WB.in 36 different settings,auto and all selections,even to grid and custom with neutral card.Exposure and light variances.From tripod/off camera flash thru light box to soft existing light.I don't understand why?When a mobile phone records white to my satisfaction. For some reason the 1000d records white as soft pastel green.Many thanks.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

opal2324 — Sun, 01 Feb 2015 05:44:41 GMT

1000d.Have cleared all settings.Removed battery.Tried 36 tests with WB,variations,Tried tests with exposures tests in differnt light sources.All tests have been in manual.I don't play with RAW as I like to get a result from the camera not a pc.Many thanks.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

TCampbell — Sun, 01 Feb 2015 07:14:38 GMT

Can you show us a photo with this issue? (Please make sure the EXIF data is intact.)

Does it show up green on the camera LCD or the computer screen? I have seen issues where the LCD has a color cast even when the images are fine on the computer.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

ebiggs1 — Sun, 01 Feb 2015 14:37:02 GMT

opal2324,

Did the Rebel XS ever make jpgs the way you think it should? At least as good as you phone? You did the reset? You got a brand new memory card? You formatted it with the XS?

If, yes, to these, than the camera needs service. And I am afraid if it indeed does, as I now suspect, it will likely cost more than the camera is worth.

Two points I may have picked up on, one is, RAW is not for everybody. I believe it is the way to go but I understand not everbody wants or needs the extra quality or steps involved. And second, if you are/were happy with cell phone pictures, possibily you should just use it. That isn't bad, it is just they way it is. As, their needs are not the same as folks with DSLR's.

Lastly, if you are just using the camera's LCD screen, that is not very good idea. I know you don't want to involve more steps but in this situation you must. You must confirm the 'greenish' whites are truly 'greenish'. You can not do that with just the camera. It may be that the LCD is the faulty component.

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

ezpop — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 03:01:41 GMT

try custom white balance or go to WB bracketing and make adjustment according. read the manual for details

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

ezpop — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 04:24:23 GMT

Go to color trims part of the user guide.. I think it works on your camera as well.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/7d/users-guide/

Re: whites photographed.turn out pale green

Skirball — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:38:14 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@ScottyP wrote:
I guess we'll need a firmware update then, to add "LED" to e menu of canned white balance settings?
Maybe not. My impression is that LEDs are much closer to having a sensible color temperature than fluorescents (including CFs) are. In my office at work I have a CF desk lamp and a pole lamp with three 8W(!) LED spotlights. To my eyes, the LEDs are a fair approximation of 60W tungstens, while the light from the desk lamp looks greenish. I don't recall having a chance to do a photo shoot in LED light, but I'd be surprised if it isn't more tractable than any form of fluorescent light.

Absolutely. But LEDs can come in all kinds of color. I've shot a fair amount of architectural work where they use daylight colored LEDs, and it balances quite well with flash. Haven't had any issue with it at all. In living areas they usually use a warmer version, which is closer to tungsten, but not as orange. I rather like it, and it balances with other light better than tungsten. Whatever color it is, so long as it's not fluorescent and doesn't vary as much as they do, I'll be happy.