topic Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

knowoneuno — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:30:33 GMT

I have a very old Mac Book Pro, running on 2 gigs of memory and the last version of software that this Mac will take. With that being said, is there any Lightroom program I can use to work my files in RAW from my new 5D Mark III?

I travel a lot, so I'd like to be able to use my Mac on the road to see some of my files.

I have a Windows 8 desktop at home and the newest version of Lightroom and Photoshop CC on it.

But for the life of me, I cannot find a Lightroom version that works with the new Raw files this camera puts out.

Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

TCampbell — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:35:32 GMT

What version of the OS do you have?

Adobe applies the Camera RAW updates to the software itself. Apple applies the Camera RAW updates to the COMPUTER (not the software) and this is because Apple's "Quick Look" feature of Finder, as well as the Preview app, iPhoto, and Aperture all use the _same_ camera RAW library. That means if you used Aperture, you'd probably have RAW support.

But the problem with the Aperture approach is that it only works on Mac and you also use Windows 8 -- where your only real option is Lightroom.

Does the MacBook Pro have an Intel Core 2 Duo (must be "Core 2 Duo" and not "Core Duo" -- the difference being that a Core Duo is a 32bit processor and a Core 2 Duo is a 64bit processor. If so... then you could upgrade to a newer OS (Apple's latest operating system versions require 64 bit processors.)

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

Skirball — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:48:28 GMT

Can't you just run the Adobe DNG converer? Or will your computer not support that?

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

knowoneuno — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:15:49 GMT

My Mac Book Pro has Version 10.6.8 software on it, and I think it is the end of the line, for that.

My chip is an 1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo, so it is only 32 bit.

Finally, I have only 2GB of Ram on it.

This is not my main computer, I got a new Lenovo recently for all my work, but I would like to see some of my shots,

if at all possible, while I am on the road.

I don't know a thing about converting the files to DNG format, I strictly work in RAW for all my photos.

Thanks!

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

Skirball — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:37:59 GMT

Got. Sorry, I’m not an Apple guy, but Tim seems to know his stuff in that field. I know Apple is a little funky when it comes to what software is allowed and what is not.

As far as DNG, it’s just Adobe’s version of a universal RAW file. All of the major (and minor) functions of Canon and Nikon’s RAW files are there. Technically some very minor things such as Nikon’s Active D lighting are stripped out. If that concerns you I’d recommend researching before using it. On the pros side, DNG is universal, slightly smaller in file size, and has integrated sidecars. More importantly, if you converted your RAW to DNG (you can do it on import, but of course it will increase import time) you could use those on your laptop. But it wouldn’t solve your problem if you wanted to use your laptop to import directly from your camera while traveling.

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

amfoto1 — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:41:44 GMT

I haven't used a Mac in a decade or more, but I believe you need Lightroom 4 or 5 to handle 5D III RAW files. Your Mac OS may not be able to handle one of the later versions of LR. You can check the Adobe site for compatibility: which version of LR is needed for 5D III and which version of Mac OS is needed to run that version of LR.

A fairly simple solution would be to shoot RAW + JPEG and only copy the JPEGs to your older computer. Those should be viewable with any version of LR or other s'ware you might have on the computer. You probably wouldn't want to do any serious editing, but at least could check the files. To conserve space, you might set the JPEGs to one of the smaller sizes.

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Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

knowoneuno — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 02:17:02 GMT

I downloaded the free trial version of Lightroom 4, after trying Lightroom 5 and Lightroom 6, and none of them worked. At least Lightroom 4 loaded, but did not allow the importation of the RAW files.

As bad as I hate to admit it, you might be on to something with shooting RAW + Jpeg files, when I'm out on the road, just to see the files.

Although, very rarely, I would like to upload something while I'm on the road, I guess I could do it in jpeg mode.

Any ideas on where to write to Adobe Lightroom to see if they might have a solution to this? I know I can't go higher than Lightroom 4, but was really hoping that might do the trick with these new 5D Mark III files.

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

ebiggs1 — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:31:35 GMT

" At least Lightroom 4 loaded, but did not allow the importation of the RAW files."

I don't use a Mac, so that is where I am at, but can't you d/l the Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter for Mac's and have it work? It is this plug-in that does the converting not LR itself, at least on Windows machines. I believe the most current is ACR 8.2

You tried Lightroom 6?

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

knowoneuno — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:21:12 GMT

I can't use any Lightroom version higher than 4.0 due to an old Mac Book Pro.

I could try your suggestion if I just knew where to put the new Raw update in my 4.0 version of Lightroom. I think that would possibly be the solution to my problem.

Are there any Mac users out there that can tell me where to put the newest Raw plug-in into Lightoom?

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

ebiggs1 — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:31:30 GMT

Use Adobe Application Manager to update ACR to 8.2 (Mac or Win)

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

hsbn — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:19:18 GMT

The latest version of Lightroom is 4.4.1 and it supports 5D Mark III.
It also works on your OS.
Processor: Multicore Intel® processor with 64-bit support
• OS: Mac OS X 10.6.8 - 10.8
• RAM: 2GB of RAM
• Hard Disk: 1GB of available hard-disk space
• Display: 1024x768 monitor resolution
• Internet connection required for Internet-based services*
Download link: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5599

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

knowoneuno — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:58:07 GMT

No it won't.

My chip is the 32 bit processor Intel Chip.....someone posted something earlier about this.

I've got the chip that doesn't work with this version of Lightroom, at least I think it won't.

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

Skirball — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:16:22 GMT

You should be able to DL the 32 bit version of LR4 from the Adobe website.

Edit: Am I reading this right, for Mac your only choice is 64 bit since version 4.1?

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

TCampbell — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:07:24 GMT

@hsbn wrote:
The latest version of Lightroom is 4.4.1 and it supports 5D Mark III.
It also works on your OS.
Processor: Multicore Intel® processor with 64-bit support
• OS: Mac OS X 10.6.8 - 10.8
• RAM: 2GB of RAM
• Hard Disk: 1GB of available hard-disk space
• Display: 1024x768 monitor resolution
• Internet connection required for Internet-based services*
Download link: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5599

It's the processor requirement that's the problem. It requires a 64-bit processor. A "Core Duo" is a 32 bit processor. A "Core 2 Duo" is a 64 bit processor.

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

knowoneuno — Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:38:50 GMT

That is the problem, my processor.

Any work around anyone can think of? So frustrating.

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

Skirball — Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:49:39 GMT

Are you trying to be able to edit shots on the road? I only ask because in your original post you mentioned being able to “see” your photos. If you’re just trying to view/show your portfolio then I’d say just use the cloud or disk with a jpg. But I doubt you’d be asking if that’s all you were trying to do.

Have you tried the Adobe DNG converter? Unfortunately it looks like the Adobe download site is down right now so I can’t check the specs. But if you could run the converter then you could convert to DNG and edit that way – I believe that LR3 will process the DNG without issue?

Other than that, you can try third party viewers. Is Picasa still around? I used to use that on one of my Laptops that was running an archaic version of Windows and didn’t have a recent enough Photoshop for my RAW files. Then I learned about the DNG converter and used that instead. The only problem with third party options like Picasa is that your edits aren’t going to transfer from one to the other.

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

Dun1 — Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:27:10 GMT

The one thing I see that is causing problems is the limited RAM in your machine.

That having been said, have you tried or taken a look at importing your files into iPhoto, and yes I know it's clunky and its like trying to stack BB's with gloves on. It might be a workaround until you can upgrade your Mac Book Pro. After they have been imported into iPhoto you can export the original file and move it to machine you intend to use to process the images.

Re: EOS 5D Mark III Lightroom Issues

knowoneuno — Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:05:20 GMT

The problem isn't the lack of memory, yes, I understand, this Mac Book Pro has very low memory. The problem is the chip is old and the new Camera Raw plug-ins and the newest version of Lightroom do not work with my chip.

I do appreciate your reply, but the problem isn't in the lack of memory.