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    <title>topic Re: Is the Canon EOS 60D a good camera by today's standards? in EOS DSLR &amp; Mirrorless Cameras</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/Re-Is-the-Canon-EOS-60D-a-good-camera-by-today-s-standards/m-p/255651#M48354</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I am seeing two copies of this post so I am duplicating my response to the first one onto this thread.:&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Hamish, and welcome to the forum! &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.png" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have three of the Canon 60D bodies and personally find them to be excellent cameras.&amp;nbsp; I have the 80D, 7D and 7DII yet I still love using the 60D.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; For a first DSLR I think it would be an excellent and quality camera to learn on.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As with any second hand camera I would suggest ensuring the vendor is reputable and what they say about the camera (condition etc) is liable to relied upon.&amp;nbsp; Second I would find out how many shutter actuations this camera has had and of course ask if it and lens have had any problems.&amp;nbsp; Do they offer a money back period if you find an issue?&amp;nbsp; I did a quick check on Craigslist (not knowing exactly where you live - but I am in NZ) and found a 60D in San Dema California for sale by someone called Kim.&amp;nbsp; They were selling their 60D with a shutter count of around 3329.&amp;nbsp; Is that the one you are referring to?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regarding the 18-135 lens.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I have a couple of the Canon EF-S 18-135 IS STM units and find that model to be an excellent walk-around lend.&amp;nbsp; Their popularity as a kit lens is testament to their value for money.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; For a starter kit I would think that, as long as the price is reasonable and you researched other options, it would be a good combination to start with.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You could spend more money and get better gear, but frankly the combination you have, if the price is right is an awesome starter kit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17327i8410AD90A2AF838B/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="IMG_3072-1.jpg" title="IMG_3072-1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is a photo, taken hand-held under far from ideal lighting conditionas of quite dim lighting of a Maori Kapa Haka performer, taken with exactly this combination of gear.&amp;nbsp; 115mm, 1/100sec, f5.6, ISO-400&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17328i2F7D384B36146EA5/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="NZ Auckland Stanley Point Villa to garden 01.jpg" title="NZ Auckland Stanley Point Villa to garden 01.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Same gear, another type of subject.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17331i186393F84E8AFF03/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="IMG_1097 a-1-3 LR.jpg" title="IMG_1097 a-1-3 LR.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My great newphew looking a bit serious about having his photo taken!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Finally a close-up shot...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17330i0B0915E9D4B9F7CD/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="Bee on a flower 03 - Copy.jpg" title="Bee on a flower 03 - Copy.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are all hand-held with available light, and using the body+lens combo.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So that is an idea of some of the capabilities of the camera combination.&amp;nbsp; The rest is up to your developing skills!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/111548"&gt;@hashmifernandes&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am in the market to buy my first DSLR and I've found a Canon EOS 60D that comes with a 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens for fairly cheap ($350) on craigslist, but I wonder if this camera is still worth the buy.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Primary uses I would like out of it will be nature pictures, maybe some night shots of the sky/moon and I might want to try doing some short videos as well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Being new to photography, I don't know much about it and would like to know other photographers opinions of the camera. The general feel I get from reading reviews is that the camera is good (back in 2011) but the lens brings about pain.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let me know what you guys think, thanks in advance!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:16:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Tronhard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-09-24T19:16:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is the Canon EOS 60D a good camera by today's standards?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/Re-Is-the-Canon-EOS-60D-a-good-camera-by-today-s-standards/m-p/255568#M48353</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/111548"&gt;@hashmifernandes&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am in the market to buy my first DSLR and I've found a Canon EOS 60D that comes with a 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens for fairly cheap ($350) on craigslist, but I wonder if this camera is still worth the buy.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Primary uses I would like out of it will be nature pictures, maybe some night shots of the sky/moon and I might want to try doing some short videos as well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Being new to photography, I don't know much about it and would like to know other photographers opinions of the camera. The general feel I get from reading reviews is that the camera is good (back in 2011) but the lens brings about pain.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let me know what you guys think, thanks in advance!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is craigslist. &amp;nbsp;You will be taking a chance, without much of a guarantee. &amp;nbsp;It might be good, and it might not. &amp;nbsp;I do not advise buying used camera gear without getting a hands-on inspection, or at least a guarantee from a reputable camera vendor. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have bought used gear from a couple of major online retailers. &amp;nbsp;They typically offer a 30 day guarantee on used gear. &amp;nbsp;I have found that retailers have rating systems for used gear. &amp;nbsp;I think KEH has the most conservative ratings for used gear. &amp;nbsp;They also have pretty good service AFTER the sale.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But, a guarantee is not the same as a warranty, most especially one backed up by Canon. &amp;nbsp;You may want to pay a visit to the Canon Online Refurbished Store. &amp;nbsp;You can buy factory certified, refurbished cameras and lenses that come with a a FULL ONE YEAR warranty, just like new gear would. &amp;nbsp;If you are on a tight budget, and not familiar with DSLRs, this is where I would advise you to make your first purchase.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-interchangeable-lens-cameras" target="_blank"&gt;https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-interchangeable-lens-cameras&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;As for the 60D, it is an older camera body with a history of pros and cons. &amp;nbsp;Until you are more familiar with DSLRs I would not recommend purchasing a used camera and/or lens that you cannot hold in your hands and test. &amp;nbsp;Even if you could hold that offered camera in your hands, do you know what to look for? &amp;nbsp;No, and that is my point.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are a host of things that should be tested and checked when buying a used camera, that you really need a detailed checklist to do a good job of it. &amp;nbsp;For example, besdies taking photos, does the flash shoe work, and is it fully functional? &amp;nbsp;All of these tests are performed by the major retailers of used gear and, of course, by the Canon Refurbished factory.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2018 12:18:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-23T12:18:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is the Canon EOS 60D a good camera by today's standards?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/Re-Is-the-Canon-EOS-60D-a-good-camera-by-today-s-standards/m-p/255651#M48354</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I am seeing two copies of this post so I am duplicating my response to the first one onto this thread.:&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Hamish, and welcome to the forum! &lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.png" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have three of the Canon 60D bodies and personally find them to be excellent cameras.&amp;nbsp; I have the 80D, 7D and 7DII yet I still love using the 60D.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; For a first DSLR I think it would be an excellent and quality camera to learn on.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As with any second hand camera I would suggest ensuring the vendor is reputable and what they say about the camera (condition etc) is liable to relied upon.&amp;nbsp; Second I would find out how many shutter actuations this camera has had and of course ask if it and lens have had any problems.&amp;nbsp; Do they offer a money back period if you find an issue?&amp;nbsp; I did a quick check on Craigslist (not knowing exactly where you live - but I am in NZ) and found a 60D in San Dema California for sale by someone called Kim.&amp;nbsp; They were selling their 60D with a shutter count of around 3329.&amp;nbsp; Is that the one you are referring to?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regarding the 18-135 lens.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I have a couple of the Canon EF-S 18-135 IS STM units and find that model to be an excellent walk-around lend.&amp;nbsp; Their popularity as a kit lens is testament to their value for money.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; For a starter kit I would think that, as long as the price is reasonable and you researched other options, it would be a good combination to start with.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You could spend more money and get better gear, but frankly the combination you have, if the price is right is an awesome starter kit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17327i8410AD90A2AF838B/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="IMG_3072-1.jpg" title="IMG_3072-1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is a photo, taken hand-held under far from ideal lighting conditionas of quite dim lighting of a Maori Kapa Haka performer, taken with exactly this combination of gear.&amp;nbsp; 115mm, 1/100sec, f5.6, ISO-400&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17328i2F7D384B36146EA5/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="NZ Auckland Stanley Point Villa to garden 01.jpg" title="NZ Auckland Stanley Point Villa to garden 01.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Same gear, another type of subject.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17331i186393F84E8AFF03/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="IMG_1097 a-1-3 LR.jpg" title="IMG_1097 a-1-3 LR.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My great newphew looking a bit serious about having his photo taken!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Finally a close-up shot...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17330i0B0915E9D4B9F7CD/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="Bee on a flower 03 - Copy.jpg" title="Bee on a flower 03 - Copy.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are all hand-held with available light, and using the body+lens combo.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So that is an idea of some of the capabilities of the camera combination.&amp;nbsp; The rest is up to your developing skills!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/111548"&gt;@hashmifernandes&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am in the market to buy my first DSLR and I've found a Canon EOS 60D that comes with a 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens for fairly cheap ($350) on craigslist, but I wonder if this camera is still worth the buy.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Primary uses I would like out of it will be nature pictures, maybe some night shots of the sky/moon and I might want to try doing some short videos as well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Being new to photography, I don't know much about it and would like to know other photographers opinions of the camera. The general feel I get from reading reviews is that the camera is good (back in 2011) but the lens brings about pain.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let me know what you guys think, thanks in advance!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:16:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/Re-Is-the-Canon-EOS-60D-a-good-camera-by-today-s-standards/m-p/255651#M48354</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tronhard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-24T19:16:08Z</dc:date>
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