topic Re: Your Opinion 1DS in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Your Opinion 1DS

RBartkus — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 14:28:22 GMT

Currently working with a 7D MkII

Considering going to a full frame format; either going through MPB for a 1Ds MkIII or a 5d mkIII or IV

I would appreciate any opinions y'all might have or experiences

Thanks

Rick

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

ebiggs1 — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 15:23:01 GMT

"...a 1Ds MkIII or a 5d mkIII or IV"

Ok, right off I have owned and used the 1ds3 and Mk III. I have not owned the 5d4.

Those two cameras made me a lot of money. Neither had any issues, ever. They did not have easy lives!

Basically, there is only one practical difference between the 1ds3 and the 5d3. That is high ISO. Other than that they are pretty similar. You will be hard pressed to tell which camera took any certain photo.

The 1ds3 is bigger and heavier and is better built. The opposite is true of the 5d3. Which way, lighter or heavier, is more important to you is what you should use to choose. This is not to say the 5d3 is of poor build because it is very well made, too.

Personally I have a distinct love for the 1 series cameras and the 1Ds Mk III would be the one I would choose. However, you inserted the 5D Mk IV into the equation. Always best to go with the latest most newest technology. If you got the coin go for the 5D Mk IV.

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

RBartkus — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:15:53 GMT

Thanks.

I have been leaning toward the 1D system.

I believe the 1D has at least one additional processor, but I have not yet been able to confirm that. Perhaps it was just in my dreams (LOL)

Rick

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

RobertTheFat — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:29:04 GMT

@RBartkus wrote:
Thanks.

I have been leaning toward the 1D system.

I believe the 1D has at least one additional processor, but I have not yet been able to confirm that. Perhaps it was just in my dreams (LOL)

Rick

The 1Ds3 was and is a fine camera. (Those things last forever.) But it's very dated technology today, and Canon may even have stopped supporting it. If you really have your heart set on the 1D series, get a 1DX Mark II. Otherwise, take Ernie's advice and get a 5D4.

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

RBartkus — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:35:36 GMT

Thx

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

ebiggs1 — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:42:13 GMT

Rick,

"I have been leaning toward the 1D system."

There is just something about a 1 series. Once you go 1 series you'll never go back. At least you won't be as happy about it.

The 1Ds Mk III will do anything, except high ISO, that the 5D Mk III will and do some things better. But like Robert said it is getting long in the tooth. I think about 12 years old now. That's a long time in electronics. Not trying to talk you out of it but just beware of it. The 1Ds3 is still a capable top notch camera. The last time I had mine serviced CPS still did C&C on them but that was about a year ago. If not Midwest Camera still repairs them.

The saying among pros is, "You could beat somebody to death with a 1 series camera and then take the crime scene photos with it." Ya gotta love it.

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

RBartkus — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:51:38 GMT

Again Thanks!

I will be retiring soon from IT (I am a Database Admin) and moving back to Calif (Riverside/Orange County) So I will be reasonably close to the Canon Customer Service in Irvine. In any case, while the 5 is tempting and the age of the 1 is older; so am I, so it may be a good choice for me. Not sure I am much closer to a decision but you have both given me good info to consider. I always thought the 1D had additional Digic processors but I need to confirm that.

Thanks again

Rick

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

ebiggs1 — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 17:04:04 GMT

"I always thought the 1D had additional Digic processors but I need to confirm that."

I don't think this matters. If speed is you main most concern, you need the 5D Mk IV. There is no significant difference in processing speed between the 1ds3 and the 5d3. The 5D Mk IV will run circles around either of the older cameras.

But it sounds like to me you are leaning and wanting to try a 1 series. The 1ds3 is a good one to try out. To answer your question the 1ds3 has two DIGIC III image processors. These are the reason it can shoot FF at 5 fps.

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

RobertTheFat — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 19:53:27 GMT

@RBartkus wrote:
Again Thanks!
I will be retiring soon from IT (I am a Database Admin) and moving back to Calif (Riverside/Orange County) So I will be reasonably close to the Canon Customer Service in Irvine. In any case, while the 5 is tempting and the age of the 1 is older; so am I, so it may be a good choice for me. Not sure I am much closer to a decision but you have both given me good info to consider. I always thought the 1D had additional Digic processors but I need to confirm that.

Thanks again

Rick

Ernie is around your age, and i'm somewhat older (and also a retired IT person). So you're not being bullied by the younger generation to see things their way. In any case, the cameras you're considering are all very good, so you can hardly go wrong. Enjoy!

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

Waddizzle — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 22:30:57 GMT

@RBartkus wrote:
Currently working with a 7D MkII

Considering going to a full frame format; either going through MPB for a 1Ds MkIII or a 5d mkIII or IV

I would appreciate any opinions y'all might have or experiences

Thanks

Rick

Right now, if it is not a 1Dx, then there are only two older 1D series cameras I would consider buying, the 1Ds3 or the 1D4. I close the 1D4 for the faster frame rate and the higher ISO range. But, it was a close call. The differences between the cameras are negligible in average shooting scenarios.

If I am not mistaken the two cameras share the same focus system, which is something that the 80D and 6D2 share today. The 1Ds3 has the higher resolution, and a full frame sensor. The 1D4 has the slightly smaller APS-H sensor, but still uses only EF lenses.

I wanted to photographs wild birds, and did not like the IQ from the 7D2. I was not a fan of the button along the left edge of the rear pane, eitherl. The 5D series has the same layout, and it is similar to some of the first DSLRs Canon releases. I have big hands, so I would need a battery grip with those bodies.

For whatever reason, the 1D Series does not continue the tradition of buttons on the left edge, and so I wanted to try one out. The battery grip was built-in, and the price was right. My point is simple. The 1Ds3 is not the only 1D to consider. Give the 1D4 a look, too.

Re: Your Opinion 1DS

RexGig — Sat, 30 Jun 2018 15:38:07 GMT

The 5D Mark IV is a far better camera than the 5D III, in my opinion. Skipping the 5D III was a relatively easy decision for me, as my 7D and 7D Mark II cameras had met my actual needs, and the 7D II had added new features that I reckoned would be in the next 5D-series body, after the 5D III. (I actually kept using original 5D cameras, skipping both the 5D II and the 5D III.) I added a 5Ds R in early 2016, about half a year after the introduction, and then added a 5D IV in March 2018.

In my case, I had added a pair of pre-owned 1D Mark II N cameras, for birds/wildlife in good light, at the end of 2012 and very early 2013, which also made skipping the 5D Marks II and IIi an easy decision. One very desirable feature that the 1D II N offered, that the original 7D could not, was the ability to AF with an f/8 combination of lens and Extender, such as my EF 400/5.6L and Extender 1.4x III. The improved capabilities of the 7D Mark II largely relegated my 1D II N cameras to reserve status, especially after I added my second 7D II body. (I used a pair of 7D cameras, and then a pair of 7D II cameras, to photograph crime scenes and crime victims, from 2010, until my retirement in January 2018. This is not the same thing as being a "professional photographer," but I strived to be a very, very good photographer as part of my public service career.)

I do, however, love the large, sturdy form factor of top-tier pro-body cameras, and when a little-used, near-pristine 1Ds Mark III arrived at a local camera store, it seemed to call to me, from the lower shelf of the display of pre-owned Canon equipment. I handled it several weeks ago, then tried it with a demonstrator lens lens about two weeks ago. I returned last week with a memory card, one of my 600EX-RT Speedlites, and my EF 35mm f/2 IS lens*. After a few test shots at typical distances, I placed a dollar bill on the countertop, extended the Speedlite's bounce card, and shot field-expedient, very-close-range images of the dollar bill. At that moment, I knew I was going to be buying that 1Ds Mark III.

I had, since late 2010 or early 2011, considered the 1Ds Mark III to be a grail-quest camera, as it was Canon's flagship at that time. Starting with the arrival of the 1D X, I had followed the internet discussion, regarding whether the 1D X cameras had replaced the 1Ds Mark III, or whether the 5Ds-series cameras had actually succeeded the 1Ds-series. Well, I have no 1D X cameras, but will now have the opportunity to compare the 1Ds Mark III, 5Ds R, and 5D Mark IV.

*This is a very special lens. Perhaps all EF 35/2 IS lenses are as good as mine, or perhaps mine is a particularly nice sample, but this one behaves very well on every camera on which I have tried it, up to 50MP, and is actually one of my two most-favored lenses for my 5Ds R.