topic 7D mkii utility software in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

7D mkii utility software

riverracer — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 10:15:29 GMT

been searching, but haven't found any info.

is there anyway to backup the camera settings?

either Canon or aftermarket windows software?

otherwise is there a list online somewhere that lists all the settings so i can jot them dowm?

or do i have to go screen by screen manually write them down?

i'm only learning with this new to me camera, and i keep changing settings around to try and karnt keep up with what works and what wont.

also, how about a shutter count program for a 7Dmkii?

i have tried about 4 programs, all say they will work, but nothing comes up.

running latest firmware in camera.

thanks

Re: 7D mkii utility software

Ray-uk — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 10:56:56 GMT

Sadly there is no way to back up the camera settings apart from a piece of paper and a pen.

Shutter count for 7D2 can be shown with a program called EOSinfo from AstroJargon and it is freeware, I don't have a link but a Google search should find it.

EDIT ..............

Forget that, I've just run EOSinfo again and it doesn't seem to be working, it used to but I can only think that the latest camera firmware may be stopping it.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

Waddizzle — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:12:40 GMT

Unfortunately, saving camera settings to your memory card seems to be a feature reserved for 1D Series camera bodies.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

RobertTheFat — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:49:50 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
Unfortunately, saving camera settings to your memory card seems to be a feature reserved for 1D Series camera bodies.

I didn't know that even the 1D series could do it.

But that's not necessarily what the OP was asking about, nor what I've suggested to Canon in this forum a couple of times. Which is that EOS Utility be made able to read the camera settings (which I believe it can already do) and save them to a file on the computer, and then write them back into the camera later. That should require little, if any, firmware that the camera doesn't already have.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

TTMartin — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 13:10:05 GMT

@riverracer wrote:

also, how about a shutter count program for a 7Dmkii?
i have tried about 4 programs, all say they will work, but nothing comes up.
running latest firmware in camera.

thanks

When my refurbished 7D Mk II was delivered I wondered what the shutter count was. I purchased a program called ShutterCount from DireStudio for $4. It worked fine using Windows 7 on the 7D Mk II and I found the shutter count on my refurbished camera was 324.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

TTMartin — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 13:17:51 GMT

@riverracer wrote:
been searching, but haven't found any info.
is there anyway to backup the camera settings?
either Canon or aftermarket windows software?

You can save the complete camera state including custom function settings to C1, C2, or C3 on your camera. That way when you get something that works you can go back to those exact settings later simply by turning the knob to C1, C2, or C3.

Note: You don't have to be, or often don't want to be in C1, C2 or C3 when you are saving the settings. For example if you want Manual mode with Auto ISO, you would set the camera dial to M set Auto ISO, then save it to C1, then in the future C1 will be M with Auto ISO. If you want Av with fixed ISO set the camera dial to Av and the ISO you want, then save it to C2, then in the future C2 will be Av with preset ISO.

When you want to tweak your C1, C2, or C3 settings you can be in that mode too. Say you decide you now want C2 to be Av with Auto ISO after having set it as described above. Now you can just go to C2 change the ISO setting and the resave C2. From then on C2 will reflect the settings.

Note: the 7D Mk II has an option so that changes made while you are in C1, C2, or C3 will always be saved to the C mode you are in. I don't like that, but, some people do.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

Waddizzle — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 13:34:12 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@Waddizzle wrote:
Unfortunately, saving camera settings to your memory card seems to be a feature reserved for 1D Series camera bodies.
I didn't know that even the 1D series could do it.

But that's not necessarily what the OP was asking about, nor what I've suggested to Canon in this forum a couple of times. Which is that EOS Utility be made able to read the camera settings (which I believe it can already do) and save them to a file on the computer, and then write them back into the camera later. That should require little, if any, firmware that the camera doesn't already have.

The OP asked, "Is there any way to backup camera settings?"

I don't see any mention of a specific approach, like backing up to computer file. Besides, you can always use a card reader to copy the settings file to your computer. Don't know how well that works in reverse, though, copying to a card and letting the camera read it.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

RobertTheFat — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:37:28 GMT

@TTMartin wrote:
@riverracer wrote:

also, how about a shutter count program for a 7Dmkii?
i have tried about 4 programs, all say they will work, but nothing comes up.
running latest firmware in camera.

thanks
When my refurbished 7D Mk II was delivered I wondered what the shutter count was. I purchased a program called ShutterCount from DireStudio for $4. It worked fine using Windows 7 on the 7D Mk II and I found the shutter count on my refurbished camera was 324.

Sounds as though it was a store demo or something similar. If it went through the Canon refurb process, you probably got a very good deal.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

RobertTheFat — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:46:34 GMT

@TTMartin wrote:
@riverracer wrote:
been searching, but haven't found any info.
is there anyway to backup the camera settings?
either Canon or aftermarket windows software?

You can save the complete camera state including custom function settings to C1, C2, or C3 on your camera. That way when you get something that works you can go back to those exact settings later simply by turning the knob to C1, C2, or C3.

Note: You don't have to be, or often don't want to be in C1, C2 or C3 when you are saving the settings. For example if you want Manual mode with Auto ISO, you would set the camera dial to M set Auto ISO, then save it to C1, then in the future C1 will be M with Auto ISO. If you want Av with fixed ISO set the camera dial to Av and the ISO you want, then save it to C2, then in the future C2 will be Av with preset ISO.

When you want to tweak your C1, C2, or C3 settings you can be in that mode too. Say you decide you now want C2 to be Av with Auto ISO after having set it as described above. Now you can just go to C2 change the ISO setting and the resave C2. From then on C2 will reflect the settings.

Note: the 7D Mk II has an option so that changes made while you are in C1, C2, or C3 will always be saved to the C mode you are in. I don't like that, but, some people do.

I guess I'm one of them, but it's beside the point. I'm thinking more of when I drop cameras off at the Canon shop for cleaning, as I do at least once a year, and they come back reset to factory settings. I'd like to be able to quickly set them back to the way they were without having to plod my way through the menus. If there's a way to do that, I haven't found it.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

Waddizzle — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 19:32:22 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@TTMartin wrote:
@riverracer wrote:

You can save the complete camera state including custom function settings to C1, C2, or C3 on your camera. That way when you get something that works you can go back to those exact settings later simply by turning the knob to C1, C2, or C3.
I guess I'm one of them, but it's beside the point. I'm thinking more of when I drop cameras off at the Canon shop for cleaning, as I do at least once a year, and they come back reset to factory settings. I'd like to be able to quickly set them back to the way they were without having to plod my way through the menus. If there's a way to do that, I haven't found it.

I haven't done the annual cleaning thing, but I have had one repair made. I asked for a cleaning, and it didn't come back reset. The camera was still set for BBF, and my AFMA adjustments were still there, too.

I admit that I do not have a lot custom setup in a 6D [bad wheel on rear panel], but nothing seemed changed or reset. Are they erasing your AFMA info and lens registrations, too?

[EDIT]. The C1 setup that I had saved was still there, too.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

RobertTheFat — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:09:50 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
@RobertTheFat wrote:
@TTMartin wrote:
@riverracer wrote:

You can save the complete camera state including custom function settings to C1, C2, or C3 on your camera. That way when you get something that works you can go back to those exact settings later simply by turning the knob to C1, C2, or C3.
I guess I'm one of them, but it's beside the point. I'm thinking more of when I drop cameras off at the Canon shop for cleaning, as I do at least once a year, and they come back reset to factory settings. I'd like to be able to quickly set them back to the way they were without having to plod my way through the menus. If there's a way to do that, I haven't found it.
I haven't done the annual cleaning thing, but I have had one repair made. I asked for a cleaning, and it didn't come back reset. The camera was still set for BBF, and my AFMA adjustments were still there, too.

I admit that I do not have a lot custom setup in a 6D [bad wheel on rear panel], but nothing seemed changed or reset. Are they erasing your AFMA info and lens registrations, too?

[EDIT]. The C1 setup that I had saved was still there, too.

The name and copyright information survives, but pretty much everything else has to be reëntered. I'm not sure about AFMA; the two cameras I had done this month didn't have any AFMA values set.

Twice in the past I've been in the middle of important shoots, only to discover that I was shooting JPEG instead of RAW. The first time, I hadn't realized that the parameters were going to be reset; the second time I simply forgot to check. Shame on me!

Re: 7D mkii utility software

riverracer — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 09:42:37 GMT

@TTMartin wrote:
When my refurbished 7D Mk II was delivered I wondered what the shutter count was. I purchased a program called ShutterCount from DireStudio for $4. It worked fine using Windows 7 on the 7D Mk II and I found the shutter count on my refurbished camera was 324.

thanks, that program finally worked and gave me a count after trying ll the others.

turns out it had just over 21,200 shots, an i put nearly 600 on last couple weekends getting used to it.

as for the backing up, i found a spreadsheet online with all the menu pages and funtions,

so will make up a page that i can record my own settings on, to keep track of what works doing it my way.

thanks all

Re: 7D mkii utility software

Abeiis — Mon, 27 May 2019 14:39:56 GMT

I believe the question was pointing to when one resets the camera, then one would like to restore settings back, or when one purchase a new camera and like to use the same settings from the old camera. It is a simple function and Canon is not delivering on it..

Re: 7D mkii utility software

Waddizzle — Mon, 27 May 2019 15:59:45 GMT

@Abeiis wrote:
I believe the question was pointing to when one resets the camera, then one would like to restore settings back, or when one purchase a new camera and like to use the same settings from the old camera. It is a simple function and Canon is not delivering on it..

All of the EOS 1D bodies can read and write their settings to the memory card.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

RobertTheFat — Tue, 28 May 2019 01:52:13 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
@Abeiis wrote:
I believe the question was pointing to when one resets the camera, then one would like to restore settings back, or when one purchase a new camera and like to use the same settings from the old camera. It is a simple function and Canon is not delivering on it..
All of the EOS 1D bodies can read and write their settings to the memory card.

Insufficient. Many professionals and serious amateurs use cameras in the 5D and 7D series. We're sometimes told (although not, I think, by Canon) that only the 1D series is worthy of professional use. But if that was ever true, it certainly isn't true now.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

Waddizzle — Tue, 28 May 2019 01:56:00 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@Waddizzle wrote:
@Abeiis wrote:
I believe the question was pointing to when one resets the camera, then one would like to restore settings back, or when one purchase a new camera and like to use the same settings from the old camera. It is a simple function and Canon is not delivering on it..
All of the EOS 1D bodies can read and write their settings to the memory card.
Insufficient. Many professionals and serious amateurs use cameras in the 5D and 7D series. We're sometimes told (although not, I think, by Canon) that only the 1D series is worthy of professional use. But if that was ever true, it certainly isn't true now.

I think any body with dual memory cards shold be capable of it.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

Abeiis — Tue, 28 May 2019 15:03:23 GMT

I agree with you, "it is not the case now", and Canon should add this feature, otherwise, why provide us with so many settings...!

CANON, I hope you are listening.

Re: 7D mkii utility software

RobertTheFat — Wed, 29 May 2019 13:06:01 GMT

@Abeiis wrote:
I agree with you, "it is not the case now", and Canon should add this feature, otherwise, why provide us with so many settings...!
CANON, I hope you are listening.

I hope so too. The current situation is especially galling because Canon pretty much sets a camera to factory settings when you send it in for cleaning. I've been burned twice (Shame on me!) for failing to take that into account and found myself, for example, shooting JPEGs at my next gig. Being able to save the settings wouldn't directly solve the problem, of course, but it would certainly make it easier to compensate for the reset. (And if Canon really wanted to show off their user friendliness, they could save the settings when they receive the camera and set them back when they're done.)