topic Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Eos M3 ShutterCount

konrad — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 21:28:05 GMT

How do i check shutter count on CANON EOS M3? i try with shuttercount on osx and other software but nothing...

Cheers

Konrad

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

Waddizzle — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:00:14 GMT

@konrad wrote:
How do i check shutter count on CANON EOS M3? i try with shuttercount on osx and other software but nothing...

Cheers
Konrad

A Canon service center might be able to tell you. I'm not sure if every camera keeps track of the count. Lots of people ask about this, and I have always wondered why. I don't see how the information is really all that useful to an end user. It would be useful to the design engineers, though.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

jr8 — Fri, 11 May 2018 20:17:00 GMT

Most digital cameras use an electronic shutter that has finite number of possible activations (unlike mechanical shutters), after which it needs be replaced. It's a factor when you're buying or selling (used) digital cameras. It's a lot like the mileage on a car - once it reaches a certain mileage you need to replace some parts. So, the shutter actuation count on a digital camera IS useful to everydaty end user as well as (design) engineers and super smart people.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

RobertTheFat — Fri, 11 May 2018 20:44:27 GMT

@jr8 wrote:
Most digital cameras use an electronic shutter that has finite number of possible activations (unlike mechanical shutters), after which it needs be replaced. It's a factor when you're buying or selling (used) digital cameras. It's a lot like the mileage on a car - once it reaches a certain mileage you need to replace some parts. So, the shutter actuation count on a digital camera IS useful to everydaty end user as well as (design) engineers and super smart people.

I don't believe a word of that. Let's see your proof.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

jr8 — Fri, 11 May 2018 20:50:07 GMT

Canon officially lists most of its cameras shutter life expectancies at between 50,000 and 150,000 (with the 1D models averaging a bit higher at between 200 and 400K). According to Kikin’s database, you should expect closer to 350K out of your 5D. It may be surprising, but not implausible. Google and find out.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

Waddizzle — Fri, 11 May 2018 22:32:40 GMT

@jr8 wrote:
Most digital cameras use an electronic shutter that has finite number of possible activations (unlike mechanical shutters), after which it needs be replaced. It's a factor when you're buying or selling (used) digital cameras. It's a lot like the mileage on a car - once it reaches a certain mileage you need to replace some parts. So, the shutter actuation count on a digital camera IS useful to everydaty end user as well as (design) engineers and super smart people.

Like I said, the shutter count is not very useful to the average user. The count is not an indication of when you need to replace your shutter. Nor is it an indication that a shutter is about to fail. A shutter will fail whenever it gets good and ready.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

Steves_8 — Fri, 11 May 2018 22:36:10 GMT

In my experience, folks who buy used DSLRs often want to know what the shutter count is, much like tused car buyers want to know the mileage.

I find it curious and irritating that Canon don't simply make this information available in the menus somewhere. Obviously, the data is stored in the camera, so all we need is a readout. having to send the camera to a service centre for such a simple procedure is absurd.

I use a third-party program, though I have heard that Canon will not confirm the accuracy of such programs. That's fair enough - they didn't make the code after all, but their apparent lack of cooperation with third party programmers alerts the cynic in me.

Have Canon ever explained why they make this so hard?

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

Waddizzle — Fri, 11 May 2018 22:37:51 GMT

@Steves_8 wrote:
In my experience, folks who buy used DSLRs often want to know what the shutter count is, much like tused car buyers want to know the mileage.

I find it curious and irritating that Canon don't simply make this information available in the menus somewhere. Obviously, the data is stored in the camera, so all we need is a readout. having to send the camera to a service centre for such a simple procedure is absurd.

I use a third-party program, though I have heard that Canon will not confirm the accuracy of such programs. That's fair enough - they didn't make the code after all, but their apparent lack of cooperation with third party programmers alerts the cynic in me.

Have Canon ever explained why they make this so hard?

Making it easy to access could make it easier to alter.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

jr8 — Sat, 12 May 2018 01:58:39 GMT

Isn't it the same for cars (the mileage) too?!

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

jr8 — Sat, 12 May 2018 01:59:12 GMT

Exactly.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

ebiggs1 — Sun, 13 May 2018 14:09:04 GMT

"How do i check shutter count on CANON EOS M3?"

You can't. The M3 doesn't have a conventional shutter. Because mirrorless cameras do not have that mechanical mirror/shutter mechanism, the light that comes in through the lens goes straight to the sensor.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

Peter — Sat, 12 May 2018 16:54:30 GMT

My M5 has a mechanical shutter and I have found spare shutters for M3 and M2 at Ebay. Seems like also M3 has a mechanical shutter.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

Peter — Sat, 12 May 2018 17:10:32 GMT

And it seems possible to check the shutter count on the M3, but I haven't tried the software.

Canon hasn't confirmed accuracy but I have. ML and 7D/6D showed the same as Canon Japan showed.

Re: Eos M3 ShutterCount

jr8 — Sat, 12 May 2018 20:17:03 GMT

From Canon's webpage:(www.canon.co.uk/cameras/eos-m3/specifications/)

Canon EOS M3 Specifications:

Shutter

Type

Hybrid Single Blade Shutter (Electronic first curtain and mechanical second curtain shutter)

Speed

30-1/4000 sec (1/3 stop increments), Bulb (Total shutter speed range. Available range varies by shooting mode)