topic Re: HDR for RTF in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

HDR for RTF

ebiggs1 — Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:00:20 GMT

Some are 'ordinary' aren't they?

Re: HDR for RTF

ebiggs1 — Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:02:19 GMT

...and....

Re: HDR for RTF

RobertTheFat — Wed, 14 Dec 2016 01:56:23 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
...and....

Nice shot. <chuckle!> You could hardly have known this, Ernie, but I played the French horn in high school and college. I even wrapped mine with electrical tape, just like that one.

Re: HDR for RTF

RobertTheFat — Wed, 14 Dec 2016 02:07:05 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
Some are 'ordinary' aren't they?

This one looks a little soft to me, but we'll overlook that because it's hardly the point. These qualify as good HDR shots because it's not obvious why HDR was needed. The HDR shots that I disparage are those that look artificial but have little or no redeeming artistic value. These do look natural, presumably because the technology made them so.

Re: HDR for RTF

ebiggs1 — Wed, 14 Dec 2016 03:49:05 GMT

RTF,

Might be a little soft because it was hand held. Plus there was almost no light besides the tree. Real photographers find a way!

Re: HDR for RTF

Waddizzle — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 01:26:27 GMT

Ernie, you should post these [and your others like the power lines] in the "Share Your Photos" forum, too. I don't think that there is an HDR thread, yet. All the photos that RTF says he dislikes.

Here's a shot that I'm still trying to figure out what I could have done better. Multiple WB settings and [wide] Dynamic Range everywhere.

Re: HDR for RTF

Waddizzle — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 01:13:59 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@ebiggs1 wrote:
Some are 'ordinary' aren't they?

This one looks a little soft to me, but we'll overlook that because it's hardly the point. These qualify as good HDR shots because it's not obvious why HDR was needed. The HDR shots that I disparage are those that look artificial but have little or no redeeming artistic value. These do look natural, presumably because the technology made them so.

Maybe a little soft(?) gives a nostalgic quality to it. It is a timeless photo, that could have been shot yesterday or decades ago.

Re: HDR for RTF

TCampbell — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 02:56:45 GMT

Ernie, that photo of the French horn really caught my eye.. that's a beautiful shot.

You're getting a bit of a reflection off the wrapping paper (maybe a polarizer could help subdue that) but it's still a wonder photo.

BTW... what means "RTF"? Apologies if I should know this (and or if my brain is just too tired at the end of a long day).

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RobertTheFat — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 03:23:29 GMT

@TCampbell wrote:
Ernie, that photo of the French horn really caught my eye.. that's a beautiful shot.

You're getting a bit of a reflection off the wrapping paper (maybe a polarizer could help subdue that) but it's still a wonder photo.

BTW... what means "RTF"? Apologies if I should know this (and or if my brain is just too tired at the end of a long day).

He means me.

Re: HDR for RTF

ebiggs1 — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 06:10:31 GMT

"BTW... what means "RTF"?"

Yes it does refer to Bob from Boston. The biggest critic of HDR I know! The reflection of the wrapping and chimney was a feature and I tried hard to make sure it was there. That shot has gotten some nice comments from the school and I am deeply humbled by it. It is the opening slide of a slideshow for the kids er, ah, I mean young musicians.

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ebiggs1 — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 06:13:51 GMT

Oh and BTW, it was also hand held. As usual there wasn't enough, or more accurately, not the correct light for the shot. I don't know a photographer yet that doesn't have some excuse why the shot was so difficult so that is mine. ...........

This time.

Re: HDR for RTF

ebiggs1 — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 06:20:51 GMT

"I don't think that there is an HDR thread, yet."

Perhaps you or I should remedy that.

But this thread was to show RTF that HDR can be and is used in places where most people are not even aware. HDR is not only for stills either. It is in video and I suspect there will be video HDR 3D sooner than later.

Re: HDR for RTF

ebiggs1 — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 06:27:55 GMT

"...I'm still trying to figure out what I could have done better."

Sometimes a picture is just good the way it is. I was looking at your gazebo and I keep seeing things. That is what you want, to keep a person interested.

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RobertTheFat — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:00:19 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"I don't think that there is an HDR thread, yet."

Perhaps you or I should remedy that.

But this thread was to show RTF that HDR can be and is used in places where most people are not even aware. HDR is not only for stills either. It is in video and I suspect there will be video HDR 3D sooner than later.

But Ernie, I've been saying all along that HDR's forte is to produce pictures in which you don't notice that the technique has been used. The French horn and the Christmas tree are two such, and you've shown us several others of that sort as well. The HDR shots I don't like are those that come out looking unnatural, but provide no artistic justification for that look. Yes, such artistic judgements are subjective, and others may make them differently. But when one puts such a picture out there, one has to recognize that it may not gain universal acclaim.

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Waddizzle — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:30:21 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@ebiggs1 wrote:
"I don't think that there is an HDR thread, yet."

Perhaps you or I should remedy that.

But this thread was to show RTF that HDR can be and is used in places where most people are not even aware. HDR is not only for stills either. It is in video and I suspect there will be video HDR 3D sooner than later.
But Ernie, I've been saying all along that HDR's forte is to produce pictures in which you don't notice that the technique has been used. The French horn and the Christmas tree are two such, and you've shown us several others of that sort as well. The HDR shots I don't like are those that come out looking unnatural, but provide no artistic justification for that look. Yes, such artistic judgements are subjective, and others may make them differently. But when one puts such a picture out there, one has to recognize that it may not gain universal acclaim.

I tend to agree with you on the special artistic effects. Similar effects can be introduced ot any photo, not just HDR composites. I'm not a big fan of some types of special effects because they break the "less is more" principle.

But, in some cases the exaggerated effects do work pretty effectively. The special effects fall short when people try to make the end result still look like a photograph, IMHO.

Re: HDR for RTF

ebiggs1 — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:23:04 GMT

Man from Boston,

Just toying with ya Robert!

Did this one especially for you. Enjoy...............................

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ebiggs1 — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:28:16 GMT

Whoops sorry I mean this one!

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Waddizzle — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:30:33 GMT

@TCampbell wrote:
Ernie, that photo of the French horn really caught my eye.. that's a beautiful shot.

You're getting a bit of a reflection off the wrapping paper (maybe a polarizer could help subdue that) but it's still a wonder photo.

BTW... what means "RTF"? Apologies if I should know this (and or if my brain is just too tired at the end of a long day).

I was admiring the reflections of the wrapping paper, too. That's when I noticed that some of the wrapping paper was actually a guy wearing a red checkered, plaid shirt, blue jeans, and holding a camera. Looks like it would be hard to remove.

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RobertTheFat — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:50:49 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
Whoops sorry I mean this one!

Much better, I guess. But what happened to the horizon? It was straighter in the garish one you didn't mean to send!

Re: HDR for RTF

RobertTheFat — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:56:14 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
@TCampbell wrote:
Ernie, that photo of the French horn really caught my eye.. that's a beautiful shot.

You're getting a bit of a reflection off the wrapping paper (maybe a polarizer could help subdue that) but it's still a wonder photo.

BTW... what means "RTF"? Apologies if I should know this (and or if my brain is just too tired at the end of a long day).

I was admiring the reflections of the wrapping paper, too. That's when I noticed that some of the wrapping paper was actually a guy wearing a red checkered, plaid shirt, blue jeans, and holding a camera. Looks like it would be hard to remove.

It's reminiscent of Alfred Hitchcock. In the movies he directed, he always made a cameo appearance in one scene.