topic Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D? in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Robin4321 — Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:16:17 GMT

Hi everyone,

I'm making my own researches but I'm still new at photography and I want to make sure I don't miss things to choose my new lens. My budget for this lens is about 400€ ($550-600).

I'm thinking of buying a Canon EF 50 mm f/1.4 USM lens as I would like a lens to replace my EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 III.

I would like to do landscape/street/portrayal pictures with it (and even a bit of macro if possible).
Do you think it's a good choice? Is my EOS 1300D good enough for that lens?

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Waddizzle — Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:49:19 GMT

If you are interested in landscapes, then I would suggest this package.

https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/portrait-and-travel-two-lens-kit

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

kvbarkley — Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:18:17 GMT

While not a super wide angle on the APS-C, and a little out of your budget, the EF-S 18-135 STM is a good all around lens.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

TTMartin — Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:35:53 GMT

@Robin4321 wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm making my own researches but I'm still new at photography and I want to make sure I don't miss things to choose my new lens. My budget for this lens is about 400€ ($550-600).

I'm thinking of buying a Canon EF 50 mm f/1.4 USM lens as I would like a lens to replace my EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 III.
I would like to do landscape/street/portrayal pictures with it (and even a bit of macro if possible).
Do you think it's a good choice? Is my EOS 1300D good enough for that lens?

The EF 50mm f/1.4 is a waste of money. The EF 50mm f/1.8 STM is the superior choice.

Your 1300D has an 18 megapixel APS-C sensor that has been the staple of Canon APS-C cameras for many models. It has more than adequate image quality for any of Canon's lenses. What the 1300D lacks is robust build quality for large lenses, and features like a more advanced AF system and higher frame rates for sports and wildlife photography. None of those are needed for your stated needs.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Robin4321 — Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:56:41 GMT

Ok thank you guys.
I'm still open to more responses but I think I'll go for the EF 50mm f/1.8 STM like TTMartin said. It's much cheaper and it seems good (and a friend of mine told me to take that one as well). The only thing is that I would like to do some macro as well and I don't know if this lens will be good at it since it can't focus if I go closer than 35cm from the subject.

I was also thinking maybe it would be good for me to get a lens that has a stabilizer since I don't bring my tripod around really often.

What do you guys think about that? Is it worth to pay the price for it?

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

kvbarkley — Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:54:25 GMT

Yes. IS is absolutely worth it, with the possible exception of really wide lenses - less than 20mm on an APS-C.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Waddizzle — Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:55:38 GMT

@Robin4321 wrote:
Ok thank you guys.
I'm still open to more responses but I think I'll go for the EF 50mm f/1.8 STM like TTMartin said. It's much cheaper and it seems good (and a friend of mine told me to take that one as well).

I was also thinking maybe it would be good for me to get a lens that has a stabilizer since I don't bring my tripod around really often.
What do you guys think about that? Is it worth to pay the price for it?

The package that I posted includes the EF 50m f/1.8 STM lens, plus an ultra wide angle,, 10-18mm, for landscapes.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Robin4321 — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:41:43 GMT

Waddizzle -> "The package that I posted includes the EF 50m f/1.8 STM lens, plus an ultra wide angle,, 10-18mm, for landscapes."

Yes, I saw it, I might take it as well if I find it in France (I'm not from USA :p)

But is the EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM lens gonna be better than my EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 III in term of quality (beside the fact that it'll take wider pictures)? Because if I want to buy another lens it's mostly to get better pictures in term of quality not because I want to have the exact good lens of each type of picture. I don't take so many landscape pictures so I don't mind if it's not the perfect lens for it in term of widness.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Waddizzle — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:43:23 GMT

@Robin4321 wrote:
Waddizzle -> "The package that I posted includes the EF 50m f/1.8 STM lens, plus an ultra wide angle,, 10-18mm, for landscapes."
Yes, I saw it, I might take it as well if I find it in France (I'm not from USA :p)

I would hope that Canon has an online store for the European Union. If you are interested in landscapes, then I would lean more towards the ultra wide angle lens, than the 50mm, although you can make great panorama shots with the 50mm and the camera turned to portrait mode.

If you like landscapes, then a strong and sturdy tripod is a must have. I would say the same for "Clear" lens filters to protect your lenses' front elements. I have found that the B+W Nano Clear line of filters to be very good.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

ebiggs1 — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 08:30:45 GMT

Robin,

The truth is a 50mm lens is a limited use lens on a Rebel. It is fine for portraits but I think you will find you don't use it for much of anything else. Of course it does depend on what you photograph. Any prime is going to have limited value.

If you want to step into a truly higher quality lens that might be more useful give the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM Art Lens for Canon a look. Ok, it does blow the budget I know! In the same blow the budget price range is the fantastic Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens. Both of these are fast, constant aperture zooms that will be of greater use. While neither is a true macro close focus is 28 cm and 36 cm. Not bad !

Either of these lenses moves you into a different level of lens. There is a definite improvement in build quality and IQ. And their cost is a result of that. They will stick with you as you go to a better Rebel or xxD some day. If you need to save a bit longer to do it, I think it well worth it.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Robin4321 — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 08:41:24 GMT

ebiggs1 -> "The truth is a 50mm lens is a limited use lens on a Rebel."

What's a "Rebel"?

Waddizle -> "The package that I posted includes the EF 50m f/1.8 STM lens, plus an ultra wide angle,, 10-18mm, for landscapes."

I know but the lens for the landscape is only f/4.5-5.6 and the problem I had with the pictures of landscapes with my EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 III seemed to be partly coming from the low aperture opening. What do you think?

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

TTMartin — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:02:17 GMT

@Robin4321 wrote:

I know but the lens for the landscape is only f/4.5-5.6 and the problem I had with the pictures of landscapes with my EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 III seemed to be partly coming from the low aperture opening. What do you think?

For landscapes you'll want a large depth of field, so you'll want to stop that lens down to f/8 anyway. That lens has very good image for an ultra-wide angle lens.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

RobertTheFat — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:09:38 GMT

@Robin4321 wrote:
ebiggs1 -> "The truth is a 50mm lens is a limited use lens on a Rebel."
What's a "Rebel"?

Waddizle -> "The package that I posted includes the EF 50m f/1.8 STM lens, plus an ultra wide angle,, 10-18mm, for landscapes."
I know but the lens for the landscape is only f/4.5-5.6 and the problem I had with the pictures of landscapes with my EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 III seemed to be partly coming from the low aperture opening. What do you think?

I'm not Ernie or Waddizzle, but I may be the first one up this morning, and I think I know the answers.

"Rebel" is the term Canon uses in the USA for DSLRs that they identify by three- or four-digit model numbers in most of the rest of the world. I guess it's a reference to our supposedly rebellious nature, but I don't think anybody knows whether it's intended to be complimentary or pejorative. Rebels are "crop frame" cameras, so a 50mm lens is a mild telephoto, at the high end of the customary "walkaround" lens range of about 17 to 55 mm.

With landscapes, the best way to avoid wide apertures (I assume that's what you meant by "low") or deal with slow shutter speeds is to use a tripod. Then you can use Av mode with a reasonable aperture, and you don't really care if the shutter speed is low.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Waddizzle — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:20:29 GMT

@Robin4321 wrote:
ebiggs1 -> "The truth is a 50mm lens is a limited use lens on a Rebel."
What's a "Rebel"?

Waddizle -> "The package that I posted includes the EF 50m f/1.8 STM lens, plus an ultra wide angle,, 10-18mm, for landscapes."
I know but the lens for the landscape is only f/4.5-5.6 and the problem I had with the pictures of landscapes with my EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 III seemed to be partly coming from the low aperture opening. What do you think?

The 1300D (called Rebel T6 in the US) is nearly identical to my 1200D (called Rebel T5 in the US). The only difference that I know about is the 1300D adds a limited built-in Wi-Fi capability. They seem to use the same image sensor, and have identical specs and features.

You will get your best results shooting landscapes with aperture set at f/6.3 to f/11. As noted, the sweet spot for most lenses is around f/8. The narrow aperture gives you greater Depth Of Field, getting more foreground and background in focus. A wider aperture will give you a smaller DOF, which will either blur the background or the foreground, depending upon where you focus.

I use my T5 only at ISO 100, on bright sunny days. For me, too much noise begins to creep into the images by ISO 400. I use the T5 mostly for landscapes, and I shoot them at f/6.3 to f/8, depending upon available light to keep shutter speed at least 1/250.

I used the EF-S 10-22mm, but the EF-S 10-18mm is capable of similar shots. Your camera really shines at ISO 100.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

ebiggs1 — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 14:19:11 GMT

"... the problem I had with the pictures of landscapes with my EF-S 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 III seemed to be partly coming from the low aperture opening. What do you think?"

I think you need to stop paying attention to pixel peepers. Most of what they tell you and advise you does not have much to do with real world photography. All lens aberrations, such as diffraction, have to be enlarged to a point to become a problem. It was not your problem!

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

ebiggs1 — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 14:26:02 GMT

"If you are interested in landscapes, then I would suggest this package.

https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/portrait-and-travel-two-lens-kit"

I have no problem with you buying this package. I think you will find you use the 50mil very little but experience is the best teacher. Lord knows I have several, I mean many, lenses I use very little. This package is a good buy price wise. And, if you are truly in to photography it will not likely be your last one!

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Waddizzle — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 17:11:39 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"If you are interested in landscapes, then I would suggest this package.
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/portrait-and-travel-two-lens-kit"

I have no problem with you buying this package. I think you will find you use the 50mil very little but experience is the best teacher. Lord knows I have several, I mean many, lenses I use very little. This package is a good buy price wise. And, if you are truly in to photography it will not likely be your last one!

Excellent suggestion, but the OP lives in France, I think she said.

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

Robin4321 — Sun, 16 Jul 2017 04:18:54 GMT

TTMartin -> "For landscapes you'll want a large depth of field, so you'll want to stop that lens down to f/8 anyway."

That's actually something I didn't think about, maybe I got some blurness because of the aperture that was too wide? (if I keep it like 5 or 6 something it can get blur?)

RobertTheFat -> Thanks for the explanation 😄

Waddizzle -> "Excellent suggestion, but the OP lives in France, I think she said."

I'm actually a he ahah, in France Robin is a guy name, I know it's not in america 😉

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

ebiggs1 — Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:34:21 GMT

Quote,

"All lens aberrations, such as diffraction, have to be enlarged to a point to become a problem. It was not your problem!"

Re: What lens to buy for my EOS 1300D?

TTMartin — Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:00:33 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
Quote,
"All lens aberrations, such as diffraction, have to be enlarged to a point to become a problem. It was not your problem!"

Repeating wrong information over and over doesn't make it right.

First diffraction isn't a 'lens aberration' it is a physical property of light that occurs even in a theoretically 'perfect' lens.

Second the loss of sharpness due to diffraction doesn't require enlargement to be seen.