topic Re: Rick Sammons on the M5 in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Rick Sammons on the M5

kvbarkley — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:48:05 GMT

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2016/sammon-eos-m5.shtml

Almost makes me wish I had not gotten my T6S.

He really, really likes the touch screen.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

Waddizzle — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:00:04 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2016/sammon-eos-m5.shtml

Almost makes me wish I had not gotten my T6S.

He really, really likes the touch screen.

I like my M3, and the M5 sounds even better. My only knock against the M Series are the small batteries, and the narrow choice of current lenses. I use it with a Rokinon 14mm, which uses no power, and the camera is GREAT.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

ebiggs1 — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 14:02:28 GMT

"Almost makes me wish I had not gotten my T6S."

Mx not ready for prime time. The M5 may be the best of this series but that don't make the good!

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

RobertTheFat — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:53:01 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"Almost makes me wish I had not gotten my T6S."

Mx not ready for prime time. The M5 may be the best of this series but that don't make the good!

I guess I'd have to agree. But at least the M5 shows that Canon is getting serious about the M product line. With a more powerful battery and a few other tweaks, the next model could be a pretty decent camera.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

ebiggs1 — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:05:19 GMT

B from B,

I have to agree whole heartily. I actually considered one to replace my G1x. But actually using one you quickly find how lacking it is. No real reason to choose it over my G1x.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

ebiggs1 — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:06:24 GMT

B from B,

It is like Canon thought, maybe we should make one of these but we really don't want to.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

Waddizzle — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 21:07:59 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@ebiggs1 wrote:
"Almost makes me wish I had not gotten my T6S."

Mx not ready for prime time. The M5 may be the best of this series but that don't make the good!
I guess I'd have to agree. But at least the M5 shows that Canon is getting serious about the M product line. With a more powerful battery and a few other tweaks, the next model could be a pretty decent camera.

You guys raise some valid points. It ain't perfect. But, it is very compact and packs a 24MP APS-C sensor and a DIGIC 6.

The small batteries are a result of the compact size. Using the EF lenses with the adapter is a load. But, if they had a wider selection of lenses, or at least some faster lenses, for EOS-M mount, then battery capacity would be less of an issue.

Like I said, I had a happy accident of discovering that the cameras have focus peaking on the LCD display. And, the focus peaking is really quite good. I usually get better results manually focusing than I can using autofocus. I can't say why that is the case, but that's what it is with a EF 40mm pancake.

With a manual lens I can get over 300 shots on a single charge, compared to roughly 100-150 shots the specs say with an autofocus lens.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

ebiggs1 — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:54:35 GMT

If somebody gets the silly notion they want a mirrorless camera (in a Canon), they need to look at the G1x Mk II. Not the Mx series. IMHO, of course as always.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

RobertTheFat — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:50:40 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
If somebody gets the silly notion they want a mirrorless camera (in a Canon), they need to look at the G1x Mk II. Not the Mx series. IMHO, of course as always.

Smallish sensor? No interchangeable lenses? No eye-level viewfinder? Sounds like one (small) step above a cell phone camera.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

Waddizzle — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:12:24 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@ebiggs1 wrote:
If somebody gets the silly notion they want a mirrorless camera (in a Canon), they need to look at the G1x Mk II. Not the Mx series. IMHO, of course as always.
Smallish sensor? No interchangeable lenses? No eye-level viewfinder? Sounds like one (small) step above a cell phone camera.

Those reasons, and more, are precisely why I went M Series, instead of G Series. Number one, serviceablity.

i think G Series cameras are great while they work, but are actually very expensive disposable cameras. I can actually clean my sensor, if it gets dusty. I can change out my lens if I want to, and use most of my existing arsenal of lenses.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

ebiggs1 — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:47:44 GMT

RTF,

"Sounds like one 'very' (small) step above a cell phone camera."

Yes they are, Mx series included. You again hit the nail on the head. It's that whole lipstick on a pig routine.

Adding interchangabe lens ability did not make it a good camera. Even the Powershot G16 is a better idea.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

RobertTheFat — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:58:45 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
RTF,
"Sounds like one 'very' (small) step above a cell phone camera."

Yes they are, Mx series included. You again hit the nail on the head. It's that whole lipstick on a pig routine.
Adding interchangabe lens ability did not make it a good camera. Even the Powershot G16 is a better idea.

The big difference, as I see it, is that the M series has the potential to evolve into a replacement for the Rebel series and the G1x II doesn't.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

ebiggs1 — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:30:24 GMT

B from B,

So what? Doesn't make the Mx a winner. You can say all you want about it but it doesn't justify anything.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

RobertTheFat — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 21:05:15 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
B from B,

So what? Doesn't make the Mx a winner. You can say all you want about it but it doesn't justify anything.

I actually didn't say much about it, and all I was trying to justify is the direction that Canon seems to be heading with the M series. I don't know whether I'm right or wrong. but maybe I'll live long enough to find out.

Re: Rick Sammons on the M5

Waddizzle — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:56:17 GMT

Oh, I forgot to mention how the M3 is mostly used. The intiial goal had been to buy a small camera that could take near DSLR quality pictures without making you look like Joe The Professional Photographer, with a big camera and lens. In that regard, the M3 can do a pretty good job.

But, I mentioned that I discovered the camera can do focus peaking on the LCD screen. One of my sons is an executive chef, and I passed the camera along to him. We've discovered that the M3 is perfect for capturing macro photos of his plates of food. The camera has 24MP APS-C resolution, which makes it great for macro photos, especially in tight spaces.

The M3 has the tilt screen, and the focus peaking. Do you need to do focus stacking on a shot? The display made focus stacking easy, because you can see where the focus plane is located. Manual focusing doesn't present a large load on the battery, either, having the battery run down prematurely has never been a worry.