topic Re: HDR Sunset. in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:13:40 GMT

The 1st photo is under exposed. The 2nd one is normal and the 3rd one is over exposed. This increases the DR (dynamic range) of the digital sensor by several stops or EV's (exposure value). The last shot is the stacked image from Lightroom.

Re: HDR Sunset.

RobertTheFat — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:20:37 GMT

I assume your point is that too much fiddling is counterproductive. To me, the stacked image has a garish, artificial quality and lacks redeeming artistic value. I've shot a lot of sunsets, and IMO the second (correctly exposed) image is the only one worth saving.

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 20:58:48 GMT

B from B,

I am glad you are not the one buying the prints then. I guess I can put you down as a, no?

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:11:46 GMT

Last night...even caught some birds in this one.

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:12:24 GMT

Re: HDR Sunset.

RobertTheFat — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:41:36 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
Last night...even caught some birds in this one.

More water, less sky.

Re: HDR Sunset.

RobertTheFat — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:44:47 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:

Ditto. But this one was arguably worth the effort.

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 19:49:55 GMT

B from B,

"More water, less sky."

It isn't/wasn't a photo of the water. It is all about the sky!

I am afraid I am never going to drag you into the world of HDR. Although you have looked at it and didn't realize it.

Re: HDR Sunset.

RobertTheFat — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 22:02:13 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
B from B,
"More water, less sky."

It isn't/wasn't a photo of the water. It is all about the sky!
I am afraid I am never going to drag you into the world of HDR. Although you have looked at it and didn't realize it.

But that's the whole point of HDR. If it's done really well, you don't realize it. Or at least you don't notice it right away.

Re: HDR Sunset.

kvbarkley — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 22:15:18 GMT

Exactly, RTF.

I took an uninteresting picture of my (backlit) dog looking out the window. Once with standard evaluative exposure and once with the T6S internal HDR. The only difference between the two was that the standard picture had blown highlights in the window, and the HDR showed blue sky.

The HDR image was much more like I saw the scene, but I am so used to blown highlights in an image like that, it did not even register as unnatural.

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:01:25 GMT

In spite of what "RTF" claims, these HDR shots are pretty close to what it actually looked like. It is impossible for the camera to capture this amount of DR without it. At times the sky down at the lake looks like it is on fire. The colors are so vibrant.

They have been a good success for me. One was picked up by a local news/weather channel and used on TV.

Re: HDR Sunset.

Waddizzle — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:14:34 GMT

"They have been a good success for me. One was picked up by a local news/weather channel and used on TV. "

I have had a similar experience. My local station uses a video screen wall as a photo collage backdrop behind the main news desk. The photos are of various landmarks in the area.

I see my lighthouse photo everyday behind the weatherman.

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:16:18 GMT

That is a cool shot.

Re: HDR Sunset.

Waddizzle — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 22:41:04 GMT

HDR Sunrise. Yes, the colors were this rich. Three minutes before the sun broke the horizon.

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Thu, 24 Nov 2016 14:24:02 GMT

You can't kid the kidder!

Re: HDR Sunset.

Waddizzle — Thu, 24 Nov 2016 15:02:35 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
You can't kid the kidder!

Not trying to. Remember, I'm not the one who criticized the colors in your sunset shot. I've tried to include EXIF data on a shot taken earlier than the HDR sequence just above.

The only adjustments have been to exposure, contrast, whites, blacks, shadows, and highlights. No color adjustments.

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Thu, 24 Nov 2016 15:12:34 GMT

"No color adjustments."

Now I know you are smart enough to know any of the edits you made effected the color. Otherwise you wouldn't have done it.

Some of my HDR images are heavily edited. That is one purpose of HDR. The DR is extended well beyond what is possible.

I have used HDR in photos that most of you don't even realize. Maybe that is the best example of success. When no one knows what was done! Matter of fact some have passed by RTF without comment.

Re: HDR Sunset.

Waddizzle — Thu, 24 Nov 2016 15:38:33 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"No color adjustments."

Now I know you are smart enough to know any of the edits you made effected the color. Otherwise you wouldn't have done it. Some of my HDR images are heavily edited. That is one purpose of HDR. The DR is extended well beyond what is possible.

I have used HDR in photos that most of you don't even realize. Maybe that is the best example of success. When no one knows what was done! Matter of fact some have passed by RTF without comment.

True, some of those settings can bring out color details, or even seem to change the saturation, particularly exposure. But, the scene was an explosion of colors, which were quickly waning. We have lots of air pollution around here, so we can get very colorful looking sunrises and sunsets, most especially when there is heavy cloud cover to "contain" it, so to speak..

Here is a shot with no adjustments, and WB is set for Auto. See that wonderful orange layer near the horizon. Smog.

Re: HDR Sunset.

ebiggs1 — Thu, 24 Nov 2016 15:55:54 GMT

Typical out of the camera shot. Next time try the HDR method.

Re: HDR Sunset.

Waddizzle — Thu, 24 Nov 2016 16:45:59 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
Typical out of the camera shot. Next time try the HDR method.

That last photo is one of the underexposed shots from the HDR sequence, -1 Ev. Out of the camera HDR shots on a 6D mean shooting JPEGs, and it doesn't save the original images. You cannot apply any special filtering, either, to achieve a certain look like you can with a 5D3.

Also, you don't have as much flexibility on setting exposures. The 5 sequence shots were +1, 0, -1, -2, -3 Ev exposures. I suppose that I would have to setup a 5 shot sequence, and -1 Ev compensation. If I didn't want 1 Ev increments between out of all of the shots, I would be out of luck doing it in camera.