topic Re: 7D MkII Naming Files in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

7D MkII Naming Files

pjscott51 — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 21:26:17 GMT

I'm trying to name my 7D MkII files to 7D2_. But when I check the file name it displays D2_.

I'm using User Setting1 and on the File Name screen 7D2_ displays.

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

Paul

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

cicopo — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 02:06:44 GMT

Try using the - rather than the underscore. I'm not sure if the underscores placement is the issue but Canon does use it to indicate a camera has been set to the Adobe Colorspace by using it in filenames. .

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

pjscott51 — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 02:14:54 GMT

After posting my question I thought about the underscore so I tried 7DM2 and I get _DM2 displayed.

Thanks for the reply,

Paul

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

RobertTheFat — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 02:37:38 GMT

@pjscott51 wrote:
I'm trying to name my 7D MkII files to 7D2_. But when I check the file name it displays D2_.

I'm using User Setting1 and on the File Name screen 7D2_ displays.

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

Paul

My wife's 7D2 is set (also with User Setting 1) to use her three initials followed by an underscore (i.e., MJC_), and it works fine. This is just a wild guess, but I wonder if it's failing for you because the character sequence begins with a numeral.

Incidentally, the third character can be a numeral. I have my three cameras that support file naming set to use RC1_, RC2_, and RC3_, and they all work.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

pjscott51 — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 11:24:12 GMT

I tried PJS2 and the result was _JS2. I have a 7D with a file name of 7D1 and a 5D3 with a file name of _5D. It seems that the underscore is part of the file name whether you want it or not.

I guess contrary to the instructions the 7DII only excepts 3 characters in User Setting1.

Thanks for replying Bob,

Paul

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

cicopo — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 13:11:16 GMT

IF the underscore is at the front of the file name your camera is set to Adobe RGB rather than normal RGB. Unless you specifically need & can edit Adobe RGB jpg's I's recommend switching it. My 7D2 file numbers are 7D2-1234 etc.

Check your Colorspace setting & reset & i'll bet you can then use 7D2 as the prefex.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

Waddizzle — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 13:14:16 GMT

@pjscott51 wrote:
I'm trying to name my 7D MkII files to 7D2_. But when I check the file name it displays D2_.

I'm using User Setting1 and on the File Name screen 7D2_ displays.

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

Paul

There may be an issue with you adding the underscore character at the end. It is not a legal character to use at the beginning of the filename, so there may be an issue with using it anywhere. See pages 90-92 of the Instruction Manual.

Try omitting the underscore, and try it exactly as shown in the manual, "7DM2". I know that the EOS Utility can rename files, and add separator characters, like underscores, in the file names during imports from teh camera.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

cicopo — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 13:34:01 GMT

Note the info in the blue box at the bottom.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

pjscott51 — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 13:38:16 GMT

Changing the Colorspace to RGB worked. I read through the instructions on how to rename the file and there wasn't anything about the Colorspace setting.

Thanks for the help cicpo,

Paul

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

cicopo — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 14:06:11 GMT

From what I've seen the file numbering with / without the Underscore as an indicator of which colorspace was used is carried across the brands of cameras. Nikon cameras do the very same thing so if (&but I haven't verified this) all the makers use this numbering system then it's very easy for those who work on image editing to know what they are starting with.

Also note very few monitors can be set to properly work in the Adobe colorspace, which is why it's rarely used by photographers who edit their own jpg's on home based "workstations". RAW files can be processes as either Adobe RGB or sRGB and for that reason are a different conversation. IF your monitor can't be set to Adobe RGB & your colorspace was then resetting it will make for a big improvement to what you see on your monitor.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

Waddizzle — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 15:40:13 GMT

"From what I've seen the file numbering with / without the Underscore as an indicator of which colorspace was used is carried across the brands of cameras. Nikon cameras do the very same thing so if (&but I haven't verified this) all the makers use this numbering system then it's very easy for those who work on image editing to know what they are starting with."

I was referring to file name separator charactors. The OP was trying to include a separator charactor, "7D2_".

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

cicopo — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 15:57:09 GMT

That was just general info.

In his first post he said he tried 7D2_ but later said his file numbers for all his cameras started with the underscore & I knew right away what that indicated. Still not sure you can use the underscore in the file name in other positions but it can't be assigned to the first position for the reson I've mentioned.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

RobertTheFat — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 21:25:16 GMT

@cicopo wrote:
That was just general info.

In his first post he said he tried 7D2_ but later said his file numbers for all his cameras started with the underscore & I knew right away what that indicated. Still not sure you can use the underscore in the file name in other positions ...\

See my post earlier in this thread. I do it all the time with three different camera models (7D, 7D2, 5D3). None of the cameras are set to Adobe RGB, however.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

mhomier — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 23:14:48 GMT

This is still great info and I'm happy to have stumbled across it. However, we just returned from 3 weeks in Antarctica and Chile and tonight realize that all our photos taken with the 7D were in Adobe RGB. Ugh. Someone must have been changed the setting at the factory during repair in December, as we have never had the file name begin with underscore in the past, but now we have a few thousand with just that situation.

So now I have to ask is there any way to batch change these files to standard RGB, or are we totally stuck with them as-is? Fingers crossed.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

Waddizzle — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 01:10:08 GMT

@mhomier wrote:
This is still great info and I'm happy to have stumbled across it. However, we just returned from 3 weeks in Antarctica and Chile and tonight realize that all our photos taken with the 7D were in Adobe RGB. Ugh. Someone must have been changed the setting at the factory during repair in December, as we have never had the file name begin with underscore in the past, but now we have a few thousand with just that situation.

So now I have to ask is there any way to batch change these files to standard RGB, or are we totally stuck with them as-is? Fingers crossed.

Did you shoot as RAW or JPEG?

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

cicopo — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 01:54:26 GMT

As mentioned IF you shot RAW no problem, you can batch process the RAW files to conventional sRGB jpg's. No RAW = a lot of processing work.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

mhomier — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 02:32:01 GMT

We're still shooting JPEG. Haven't yet "graduated" to RAW but need to consider it since memory keeps getting cheaper and there are situations, like this one, where it would be to our advantage.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

cicopo — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 02:48:19 GMT

I shoot 30,000 images or more per year these days & all of my cameras shoot in RAW + large fine jpg. I rarely use the RAW files but when I need them I have them & in the odd case they do save the day, In poor light & shooting towards the sun I'll fully rely on the RAW rather than the jpgs but with the majority of my photos being shot to share on the internet before the next event jpg's are my preferred platform.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

mhomier — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:54:26 GMT

Interesting. I hadn't considered before that shooting in RAW (plus jpeg), I wouldn't have to commit to actually using the RAW files -- ha! We do little editing, mostly cropping and some bumping up of contrast occasionally, so having RAW files just seemed superfluous at our level of skill. I'll look into this some more. Thanks to both for your replies.

Re: 7D MkII Naming Files

cicopo — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 17:30:04 GMT

Something most don't realize about working with a RAW file is that you are NOT altering it & it's there for you to re edit differently as many times as you might want to, You make changes to what you see on screen but those changes are used to create a jpg & not applied to your RAW file. Over the years RAW processing has progressed big time giving us way more latitude to what we can do to a file.