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Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

gedansky — Thu, 03 Oct 2019 23:20:55 GMT

I have a new condition Canon EOS T6 and specs/shadows suddenly appeared on the upper right corner of the viewfinder. I followed DP Review blog, Google and Youtube instructions for cleaning and only made it worse.

It was only after that, that I find the video "DON'T CLEAN YOUR FOCUS SCREEN!".

I contacted my local camera repair shop and learned that Canon doesn't clean/repair/replace focus screens in the EOS Rebel series. They are considered "fixed"/non-removable.

That said... there are several third parties who sell replacements on eBay and even through the Wallmart online store, as well as a few videos showing how simple they are to replace with just a pair of surgical gloves and some plastic tweezers.

Has anyone done this successfully? Can you provide info?

Also, has anyone replaced their foam light curtain?

Thanks!

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

Waddizzle — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 00:05:50 GMT

If there is dirt on the focusing screen, then it should not appear in Live View.

If it does not appear in Live View, then it will not appear in your photos.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

gedansky — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 01:30:22 GMT

Thanks, I don't use live view except to check pics. I never use it to focus, I only use the optical viewfinder. And, I can see it when I sight and it's bothersome. Especially since I knew it was perfect just a week or so ago. So, I want to pull it and replace it with new.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

MikeSowsun — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 03:38:57 GMT

There seems to be a lot of sellers online claiming Canon part number CY3-1790-000 is the focus screen for the T6 1300D.

If that is true you should be able to have a camera repair shop change it for you.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

Waddizzle — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 08:29:14 GMT

There are no user replaceable screens for the Rebel T6 made or sold by Canon. Never has been, and never will be.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

MikeSowsun — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 13:40:56 GMT

There is not a "user" replaceable screen, but I just called Canon and they do sell a CY3-1790-000 focus screen for the T6.

If they sell the part then it must be replaceable by a qualified service technician.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

ebiggs1 — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:18:08 GMT

"Never has been, and never will be."

There is a big difference between just a forum reader and a person that actually does things.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

Waddizzle — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:12:23 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"Never has been, and never will be."

There is a big difference between just a forum reader and a person that actually does things.

You left out the "user replaceable" part of the quote.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

Waddizzle — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:14:13 GMT

@MikeSowsun wrote:
There is not a "user" replaceable screen, but I just called Canon and they do sell a CY3-1790-000 focus screen for the T6.

If they sell the part then it must be replaceable by a qualified service technician.

"I have a new condition Canon EOS T6 and specs/shadows suddenly appeared on the upper right corner of the viewfinder. I followed DP Review blog, Google and Youtube instructions for cleaning and only made it worse.

It was only after that, that I find the video "DON'T CLEAN YOUR FOCUS SCREEN!". "

Correct, there are no "user replaceable" screens. Someone who makes this mistake, is definitely a "user", and not a skilled tech.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

gedansky — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:29:09 GMT

Mike,

Thanks to you and everyone else for your help and feedback.

Canon doesn't do the replacing and our best local shop won't do it, and says the people they outsource bigger jobs to won't do it. That said. The video is pretty self explanatory...

1) Wear surgical gloves

2) turn the camera upside down

3) use tweezers to push the little metal clip in front in and upward and remove the top metal frame that holds the focus screen in place

4) use tweezers to remove the old screen

5) takeout the bottom metal frame below the screen

6) use a brush and air bulb to clean out the camera

7) put the bottom frame back in

😎 place the new focus screen in place

9) put the top metal frame back in, making sure to place the two little tabs in the back into the little holes in the camera

10) push down and lock in place

Pretty much the same way it works for the all the higher D series cameras with the user removable/cleanable/replaceable focus screens. But, because the Rebel series is considered disposable tech, much of it is considered to be unserviceable, even if it can be serviced.

I have only have $224 in this camera (new condition, only 2336 clicks when I bought it). I want to fix it. But, if I screw it up, I can sell it for parts and start saving for the 90D.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

John_ — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:48:07 GMT

Sounds like a plan I would follow....give it a shot and if you fail sell it as-is for parts.

I used the part number Mike provided in a search and found some on eBay and even Walmart has one too $18.79...I was surprised they sell it.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

MikeSowsun — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 19:40:45 GMT

When I called Canon Canada they said the part was $3.00 with an addition $5.00 for shipping.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

gedansky — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 19:48:15 GMT

Thanks John and thanks again Mike. I’ll buy several from Canon. Would you be able to share the Canon number that you used? Is that allowed? Can you PM it
to me?

Thanks!

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

MikeSowsun — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 21:01:49 GMT

I called Canon Canada at 1800-652-2666 (Mon-Fri 9am-6pm Eastern)

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

gedansky — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 21:03:24 GMT

Thanks!

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

ebiggs1 — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 21:04:31 GMT

Give it a go!

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

Waddizzle — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 23:20:39 GMT

"I have only have $224 in this camera (new condition, only 2336 clicks when I bought it). I want to fix it. But, if I screw it up, I can sell it for parts and start saving for the 90D. "

I think you may find yourself in over your head very quickly. Be very careful. People decline making this repair for a reason.

Tweezers? Canon replacement screens typically with a special tool, to pick up the screen. It looks similar to tweezers, but it will not crimp or warp the screen. Tweezers typically have "teeth", while the special tool does not.

Only 2336 clicks? I wonder how someone was able to make the determination. The only good way to determine the shutter count accurately is to send the camera to Canon. Some software that claim to be able to read the count in the camera can alter the camera's firmware. I would overwrite the firmware with the latest copy from Canon Support.

Be careful, and good luck. Like I said, if it does not show up in photos, do not bother with it.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

gedansky — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 01:46:12 GMT

I didn't mean to let this go unanswered for so long. I totally understand your concerns. And, though I consider myself quite technical, and fairly adept at delicate repairs, I have stalled on moving forward.

The problem is, my current focus screen is misaligned, my LED focus points don't show up anymore, and I am getting very inconsistent pics as a result. And, since I can't/won't just transition to using Live View only, I have to do something. The trouble is, what looks like a very simple repair, is something that the pros are avoiding. I think because Canon doesn't want them to do it.

So I can either get the parts and convince someone who knows how to do it, or I can try it myself. Otherwise, I feel I have to retire my camera or sell it at a loss.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

Waddizzle — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 02:26:24 GMT

@gedansky wrote:
I didn't mean to let this go unanswered for so long. I totally understand your concerns. And, though I consider myself quite technical, and fairly adept at delicate repairs, I have stalled on moving forward.

The problem is, my current focus screen is misaligned, my LED focus points don't show up anymore, and I am getting very inconsistent pics as a result. And, since I can't/won't just transition to using Live View only, I have to do something. The trouble is, what looks like a very simple repair, is something that the pros are avoiding. I think because Canon doesn't want them to do it.

So I can either get the parts and convince someone who knows how to do it, or I can try it myself. Otherwise, I feel I have to retire my camera or sell it at a loss.

I suspect that they are avoiding attempting the repair because there is likely some sort of alignment and calibration that must be performed, which is probably done by industrial automation when the camera was assembled in the factory.

Re: Replacement Focus Screen/prism for EOS Rebel T6/1300D? Has anyone done this successfully?

gedansky — Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:43:52 GMT

And I would agree. But, I also think it's unreasonable to force anyone with a sub-$1000 camera to pay more than the cost/value of the camera to fix a common problem, or to be forced to buy a new one. The only difference between the fixed, non-user removable setup on the Rebel series and the user serviceable setup on the more expensive cameras is a very inexpensive metal framework that is designed to be popped for cleaning/replacing, vs the one in the Rebel that is not.

All raging against the machine aside... I found a nice old guy with a well reviewed camera shop who has been fixing cameras forever and he replaced and aligned the focus lens, and replaced the light curtain foam with the better brush curtain, for $95.

Totally worth it to not risk it myself.