topic Re: 30 minute limit. T7. in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

30 minute limit. T7.

BARRIIICADEttv — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:00:18 GMT

Hello everyone!, i'm new here but i'll make this as simple as possible.

Has anyone had luck with any workaround for the auto shutoff "tax" feature in their EOS cameras?.

I've been looking everywhere for anything to help avert this issue as i originally bought my T7 to operate as my primary camera for streaming.

I know a lot of you will say "This is not a web camera" and such, however there is no reason not to try to improve quality for a persons content.

Magic Lantern is not working on anything T7 related so that is off the table. If anyone has ANY idea how to get the camera to last longer than 30 minutes i would LOVE to hear your workaround.

Perhaps there is a custom firmware out there somewhere?.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

Stephen — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 12:29:05 GMT

Hello!

Check out canon.us/livestream

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

BARRIIICADEttv — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 18:33:03 GMT

OK.

Is there a way to do it with more than 4 fps?.

I would really enjoy using my Cam Link.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

Stephen — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 18:45:26 GMT

The EOS Webcam Utility Software streams at the highest bitrate and resolution available at the time it's recording. It should be significantly more than 4fps, unless your USB cable or your PC can't handle the feed.

If you want to use clean HDMI out for production level streaming, you'll need a camera that has clean HDMI out. The entry-level Rebel T7 does not have clean HDMI out. You'll find all of the models that do have clean HDMI out at canon.us/livestream

If you're streaming, you do not need to record at the same time. You can put the camera in any mode and use Live View (the LCD screen). The HDMI will show everything that is on the LCD panel.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

BARRIIICADEttv — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:58:43 GMT

this camera has a clean HDMI output.

Evvveerryyy now and again it will try to track my face with the little white box but it's easily fixed by mounting the camera upside down and adjusting it in OBS.

Now i suppose i could try to test and see if it shuts off while having the EOS webcam utility running behind the Elgato scene in OBS.

Using high bandwidth USB cables into 3.0 plugs. Shouldn't have any bandwidth issues. But the EOS Webcam software really can't (YET) run any higher than 15fps in most cases. i was being cheeky when i said 4fps.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

Waddizzle — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 22:26:56 GMT

@BARRIIICADEttv wrote:
this camera has a clean HDMI output.

Evvveerryyy now and again it will try to track my face with the little white box but it's easily fixed by mounting the camera upside down and adjusting it in OBS.

Now i suppose i could try to test and see if it shuts off while having the EOS webcam utility running behind the Elgato scene in OBS.

Using high bandwidth USB cables into 3.0 plugs. Shouldn't have any bandwidth issues. But the EOS Webcam software really can't (YET) run any higher than 15fps in most cases. i was being cheeky when i said 4fps.

Follow the Moderator's advice. Your observations are tainted with optimism.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

BARRIIICADEttv — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 06:39:35 GMT

Tainted with optimism?.

I'm struggling to be optipistic about this camera tbh. About to chuck it out a window and buy a Sony A6100.

If only it was stated in the information area that this camera has some pretty hard limitations -_-

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

Waddizzle — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:01:22 GMT

@BARRIIICADEttv wrote:
Tainted with optimism?.

I'm struggling to be optipistic about this camera tbh. About to chuck it out a window and buy a Sony A6100.

If only it was stated in the information area that this camera has some pretty hard limitations -_-

Yes, tainted with optimism sounds better that you are mistaken. Did you see the link the Moderator provided. Your camera does not have a clean HDMI. There is a list of Canon consumer products that have clean HDMI output.

The Rebel T7 is not listed as having clean HDMI output. It is one the least expensive DSLRs that Canon sells. You are not going to get high end performance and features from an entry level camera.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

BARRIIICADEttv — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:35:29 GMT

Looks pretty clean to me. Maybe i'm just old.

It may be an entry level device?, but it is LEAPS ahead in quality compared to your standard webcam these days.

It's even better looking now that i have the lighting setup better. The only thing holding the camera back really is the 30 minute "taxes" limit. As soon as there is a firmware update or custom firmware out?, i'll be jumping all over it.

I do love the photo quality however!, i took some really great pictures yesterday just before a thunderstorm. They turned out pretty nice!.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

Waddizzle — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:39:59 GMT

PSST. Cameras that support clean HDMI do not have a 30 minute limit. Do not expect a firmware update from Canon.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

BARRIIICADEttv — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:03:57 GMT

pssst. that picture is proof of clean hdmi on a t7.

I'm not going to argue with you sir. I do really like the camera overall. Just been a bit of a tricky thing to deal with as it's really my first dslr.

Who knows?, eventually the "taxes" thing could eventually fade away and there could be some firmware changes in the years to come. I know it's just a hope, but sometimes thats all you need!.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

Kaseli — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 16:19:24 GMT

Greetings,

I have a solution for you. In order to get a clean HDMI output with a canon T7 or T7i, you must utilize a lens other than the kit lens. For instance, I am using a 30mm with 2.8 aperature. Switch the camera to 'manual focus' and then switch it into 'movie mode'. Switching it into 'manual focus' will remove the white focus box. Switching it into 'movie mode' will remove the black ring (the black ring is associated with the 30mm lens). The camera is connected to an HP laptop via the HDMI cord. The HDMI cord is connected to the Elgato Cam Link, which is connected to the laptop via the USB port. I cannot attest that this works for every camera or lens, however it works for the above configuration.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

Waddizzle — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 20:44:15 GMT

@Kaseli wrote:
Greetings,

I have a solution for you. In order to get a clean HDMI output with a canon T7 or T7i, you must utilize a lens other than the kit lens. For instance, I am using a 30mm with 2.8 aperature. Switch the camera to 'manual focus' and then switch it into 'movie mode'. Switching it into 'manual focus' will remove the white focus box. Switching it into 'movie mode' will remove the black ring (the black ring is associated with the 30mm lens). The camera is connected to an HP laptop via the HDMI cord. The HDMI cord is connected to the Elgato Cam Link, which is connected to the laptop via the USB port. I cannot attest that this works for every camera or lens, however it works for the above configuration.

That is called a "work around". It is neither a documented or supported mode of operation. Good luck.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

Kaseli — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:03:53 GMT

Greetings,

Please explain which part of this is a "work around". Is the part where I use a canon camera? The part where I use a canon lens? The part where I use a canon recommended product (elgato cam link)? The part where I use the built-in canon camera settings? What are you smoking? The very function is documented by the makers of the Elgato Cam Link on their website. This entire setup is supported by canon, in that it entirely utilizes canon and canon approved products.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

whiffycow — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 00:35:49 GMT

If you're streaming with a CamLink (way better than EOS software) don't put it in movie mode, you want it in one of the still camera modes. The Camlink is sending the display of the camera, not it's end product, so your still camera will be sending video too. Which camera mode depends on how much control you want, but that's up to you. You gotta use manual focus to remove focus box, and don't forget to disable the regular auto shutoff setting if you haven't already. I'm using a T7 with CamLink.

Re: 30 minute limit. T7.

tattoonow — Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:51:22 GMT

This is great, except for he white auto fucus box that doesnt seems to go away. Any ideas?