topic Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner? in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

barkietrin7 — Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:57:31 GMT

I’ve been interested in photography for a while now but have never owned a “nice” camera before. I’ve been doing some browsing the past few months after being a second shooter for a friend at an event. I’ve been having trouble figuring out whether the T7 is a good fit.

I’ve been looking at the EOS M50 as well since I’ve probably seen the most people recommend this one as a great beginner camera. When I stopped by my local camera shop they told me there was a month long promo for the T7 and also recommended it as a great beginner camera.

I looked at a few sites that did side by side comparisons of both models, but I would still love feedback from individuals as well.

Any thoughts, good or bad, about either model would be greatly appreciated!

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

Waddizzle — Fri, 12 Jun 2020 10:46:07 GMT

If you were a second shooter, what camera body did you use? Was it a Canon?

What camera did the lead shooter use? What is their advice on selecting a camera?

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If your interest leans more towards photography than videography, or at least you currently feel that it is, the Rebel T7 DSLR may be a better fit than the M50, which seems aimed a demographic that may be more interested in videography than photography.

I am not a fan of the wireless connectivity in the T7, which includes outdated NFC, instead of Bluetooth. Also, the T7 wireless connectivity is aimed at mobile devices, and not a home computer or laptop. Built-in wireless in just about any consumer camera does not mean it is fully networkable. A full featured network card could cost as much as the entire camera kit.

If you are interested in wireless communication for remote control, look for a camera body that includes both Wi-FI and Bluetooth, not the now outdated NFC hardware. Most of the Canon Rebel line of wireless bodies seem to only have NFC. Bluetooth makes the wireless connection very easy, and it is connection process that most people are more familiar with.

The M50 also uses MFC, but it also includes Bluetooth. It has a newer CPU, and wider ISO range specification. The M50 is capable of capturing up to 10 frames per second, which is probably more than double the rate of the T7. The M-Series bodies are really great for casual photographer, who wants a camera for vacations or special events. I would not recommend an M-Series body for use by a photo enthusiast, but only because there are better choices that are DSLRs.

What an M-Series body does not have is the ability to use the wide range of Canon EF/EF-S mount lenses. All Canon M-Series bodies use an EF-M lens mount . Canon sells a mount adapter so that M-Series cameras can use the larger EF/EF-S lenses, but the larger lenses do tend to drain the battery more quickly than native mount EF-M lenses.

Overall, I think the M50 is the better choice between the T7 and the M50 for basic photography. However, the Canon selection of EF-M lenses is nowhere as near as broad as the EF/EF-S lens lineup. I think it would be major mistake to buy an M-Seires body with the intent to use the mount adapter so that you could use EF/EF-S mount lenses.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

kvbarkley — Fri, 12 Jun 2020 13:16:38 GMT

I think you should just go for a T8i. It is no harder to use than a T7 and adds some features that may be beneficial down the road.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

Waddizzle — Fri, 12 Jun 2020 13:41:48 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
I think you should just go for a T8i. It is no harder to use than a T7 and adds some features that may be beneficial down the road.

I agree, except the T8i is double the price of the T7 and M50 camera kits.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

kvbarkley — Fri, 12 Jun 2020 14:40:48 GMT

Budget was not mentioned in the OP.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

ebiggs1 — Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:00:43 GMT

"I think you should just go for a T8i."

This is the correct answer. Even if the OP has to spend a few dollars more it is worth it. No way buy the M50, it is a dead end.

It is almost always best to go with the newer tech.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

ebiggs1 — Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:04:55 GMT

"I’ve been interested in photography for a while now ... "

This is the statement that makes me believe the OP would quickly outgrow a T7. Better to spend a little more for a camera that will take you and stay with you farther.

T7: One of the Crippled Canons

Quiet — Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:12:06 GMT

Be aware that the T7 like the SL3 has no universal flash contact on the hot shoe for 3rd party flashes. That's the big, forward-most contact on every DSLR form everyone else and every SLR since the '60s. The spot for that is filled with black plastic.

This means that if you want an on-camera flash bigger than the built in pipsqueak, you are limited to Canon speedlights that can communicate with the camera via the four smaller contacts that are on the hot shoe.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

wakiamay — Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:21:27 GMT

Forget buying a "beginner" camera. You should be looking for a camera that will allow you to do the kind of photography you want to do, within your budget. I personally just like doing random photography and wanted something I could grow into, so I went for a Canon EOS RP body and grabbed the RF 24-105 L used and then borrow my wife's lenses. If you're just looking to have something to mess around with but don't plan on getting really serious, then I'd rather look at the Canon Rebel SL2, which my wife started with, or the SL3 that recently came out. No matter what camera you go for, buy just the body. Don't waste the money on the 18-55 kit lens (it's a dumpster fire at best) and get the EF 50mm 1.8 STM for like $100 to start out. You can buy new/refurbished camera bodies from Canon's website, or elsewhere via Google. If I knew more about your budget/type of photography you plan on doing, I can better guide you.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

Waddizzle — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 09:31:16 GMT

You make interesting posts. I don't think your RF lenses will work on a T7.

https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Lenses/RF-Lens-build-quality/m-p/321538

ebel Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

ebiggs1 — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:07:21 GMT

The Rebel T7 is a good "beginner" camera but never forget it is a beginner camera. If you get the bug, you will certainly want a better camera. Possibly very soon after getting it. If not the T7 should dl all you want.

IMHO, I would never buy any "M" series cameras like the M50 so I never recommend anyone else do either. I still believe it is a dead end line. However, the current Rebel line is also a dead end. The big difference is, the Rebel line has so much gear and lenses and history out there it will be viable for a good long time yet.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

ebiggs1 — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:08:28 GMT

" I don't think your RF lenses will work on a T7."

The OP has R lenses?

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

kvbarkley — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:12:30 GMT

Read the discussion wadizzle linked to.

Given this discussion, it makes one wonder how deep into the Sony Ecosystem the OP was.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

ebiggs1 — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:15:13 GMT

You guys have a better memory than I do! Perhaps the OP is just a "lonely guy".

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

Quiet — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 23:42:07 GMT

"Don't waste the money on the 18-55 kit lens (it's a dumpster fire at best).."

Purest horse hockey. It's marvelous and flexdible tool to help a beginner to learn and to develop preferences that may later be served by a more specialized lens.

At 55mm I've found it to be sharper than my Takumar 55mm f2.0.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

ebiggs1 — Fri, 23 Oct 2020 13:29:17 GMT

"Don't waste the money on the 18-55 kit lens (it's a dumpster fire at best).."

This is pure nonsense. At the price point of the kit, it makes no sense to not get it. It is a good all around general purpose lens that does what its intended market wants and does it very well.

Re: Thoughts on an EOS Rebel T7 for a beginner?

wheeble — Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:30:56 GMT

I use a refurbished T7 often while out birding, It does a fantastic job for the price. I paid $248 for the camera, and 18-55mm and the 75-300mm. If there is a better entry level SLR for the money, I have not found it. Keep an eye on canonpricewatch.com for the official sales at canon.