topic Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm? in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

agilmore — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:28:22 GMT

Seems to me like this should be achievable through software.

I'm kind of curious as to why even mid-range Nikons can do this, while only the top of the line Canons (new 1D and 5D MKIII) are capable of it.

Is there a hardware or technical limitation preventing this from being implemented on something like the 600D?

As it is I have to rely on an old EOS 500 film camera to do these (or make them in photoshop - which takes all the fun out of it!).

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

BrickR — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:33:44 GMT

You make a good point.

Canon seems more interested in carving out and staying in segments than offering more bang for buck to buyers to get them into the system.

There is a LOT that can be done in software. Just look at Magic Lantern! 😉

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

agilmore — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:05:25 GMT

Yeah I've been secretly hoping that the ML guys will implement it! Doesn't look like Canon have any interest in doing so.

I think one of the recent ML beta builds allows a double exposure 'preview' mode, where you can overlay two previously shot images (but afaik you can't save the resulting image). But that's not much use to me, really.

Would be nice to at least get an explanation from Canon. I'm seeing some great multiple exposures on flickr and 500px lately from Nikon users, and I'm starting to get a little bit jealous...

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

ratan — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:12:39 GMT

ummm... so why don't you buy Nikon then? I bought a Canon because Nikon could not provide me with good video

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

agilmore — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:21:55 GMT

Sell all my canon gear and start over for the sake of one feature? A feature which I can still do with my film cameras? That wouldn't make much sense. I'm locked in to Canon's ecosystem at this point.

And since I'm only a hobbyist I can't really justify splashing out on a second body and lenses.

It would just be nice to have it implemented... or at least get some explanation as to why it can't be implemented.

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

ratan — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:41:50 GMT

True... In that case you can buy Canon Cameras that support multiple exposures then. Models that support this function is the Canon EOS 5D Mark iii and the Canon EOS 1D-X. I think this function will not be introduced in new firmware, because this is part of marketing strategy // better reason to buy a newer Canon model.

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

mikegrados — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:19:42 GMT

Allow me to introduce you to the 6D. Mid-range pricing, and can do multiple exposures. I can almost guarantee that this capability will filter down through future models.

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

Edward — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:44:42 GMT

Because Canon is not a customer friendly, for example why the 5DIII does not have a built-in flash. Why Canon does not release a compact/light version of the Canon 1Dx that is travel/senior people friendly with a battery charger that is small such as the one of the 5DIII.

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

jfo — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:32:41 GMT

"Not customer friendly" is a silly accusation. To be "customer friendly" should Canon include every feature on every model?

Different models have fit different needs and to think a certain model need to be changed to fit your unique needs is a bit unreasonable.

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

AGeoJO — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:29:11 GMT

The last time I checked, my 5D Mark III offers that feature, multiple exposure capability, that is.

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

agilmore — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:18:32 GMT

Yep, the 5D has it, but as I mentioned in my post I was curious as to why Canon's mid and entry level range don't have it. Considering the competition has no difficulty implementing it on their mid-range and entry-level DSLRs.

I can kind of sympathise with the sentiment above about Canon not being very 'customer friendly'. It happens in any industry in which a company has been a market leader for a long period, they reach a point where they seem more interested in maintaining their share of the market (usually with very small incrememental updates to their products), rather than wowing and delighting their existing customer base.

Magic Lantern was mentioned above, and anybody who has used it will know just how much Canon has been skimping on software features right across its product line. The lack of really significant updates in both HW and SW is something that's been noted in every review of a Canon camera I've seen in the last couple of years.

Anyway, I'll shut up now... I'm dragging my own thread off-topic!

Thanks for the replies. If any of the Canon team would like to pop in with an answer re: the multiple exposures that would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Why can't we have multiple exposures like our Nikonian friends? Hmm?

BrickR — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 01:29:19 GMT

@agilmore wrote:
Yep, the 5D has it, but as I mentioned in my post I was curious as to why Canon's mid and entry level range don't have it. Considering the competition has no difficulty implementing it on their mid-range and entry-level DSLRs.

I can kind of sympathise with the sentiment above about Canon not being very 'customer friendly'. It happens in any industry in which a company has been a market leader for a long period, they reach a point where they seem more interested in maintaining their share of the market (usually with very small incrememental updates to their products), rather than wowing and delighting their existing customer base.

Magic Lantern was mentioned above, and anybody who has used it will know just how much Canon has been skimping on software features right across its product line. The lack of really significant updates in both HW and SW is something that's been noted in every review of a Canon camera I've seen in the last couple of years.

Anyway, I'll shut up now... I'm dragging my own thread off-topic!

Thanks for the replies. If any of the Canon team would like to pop in with an answer re: the multiple exposures that would be greatly appreciated.

I agree with you in many ways. I understand trying to create clear segments but DSLRs are a "long game" not a short game. Get someone in a xxxD, good chance you'll get that person into a xxD body and then a xD body in YOUR brand. How many Rebel owners got excited about the 5d3 vs xd or xxd owners? Not to mention all of the lenses they'll aquire. Besides, collect enough lenses and you'll end up with users much less likely to switch because of the investment they have in lenses.

Whether a feature seems like a gimic, a real innovation, or the current trend, if you get new buyers in, you're more likely to have them long term! Imgine 2 or 3 frame HDR bracketing in a Rebel!

I see how many people get excited and look at/buy a T4i because it features AF in video mode. Now you've got a new buyer getting the new STM lenses, then a couple of regular lenses or one of the less expensive L lenses, then they'll look at xxd or a xd body for even more capability/ergonomics....see where I'm going...

If a new DSLR buyer buys a Nikon, I would venture to guess the majority of them will stick with Nikon (I say Nikon since it is the major competitor, but any format or maker is the same case).

And I think that is where the root of the question for this thread lies... 😉