topic Re: New guy looking for advice in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

New guy looking for advice

itznj — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:36:51 GMT

I'm sure you've seen hundreds of these posts but I'm going for it anyway. Just joined the forum. Been into photography for a few years now and I've been using a beginners camera: d3100 with a bunch of different lenses...

I've been wanting the EOS 6D for awhile now. Just looking for some advice on good lenses to start with or places to buy the body etc. I believe the body is around $1800 but checking out other sites like niceelectronics.com they're going for $1000. Curious to know if there's a catch or hidden things from these 3rd party sites. Would love to grab this body at only $1k. I also use Lightroom, an old version which I need to upgrade but what kinds of editing programs do you use? Any insight/advice would be great thanks!

-Kevin

Re: New guy looking for advice

jrhoffman75 — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:18:41 GMT

If you have a lot of Nikon glass that you are happy with then you should just look for a higher level Nikon body. Why switch systems?

Re: New guy looking for advice

ebiggs1 — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:43:56 GMT

"I've been wanting the EOS 6D for awhile now."

I will take you at your word here and assume this is what you want to do. This is as good as it gets for a place to buy the camera. B&H or Adorama <------ click on these

If you run across a store that is offering a deal much "better" than these, run do not walk away from them. These two sources are extremely good and trustworthy.

Do update your LR as the newest version has some great tools. And, IMHO, the EOS 6D will run circles around a D3100. Big improvement and of course you now can use Canon glass.

Re: New guy looking for advice

TCampbell — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:52:40 GMT

With a bit of hunting around, it's possible to catch a deal on a camera that might reduce the price by $100... sometimes $200. You can often find the 6D (a $1900 list price body) for $1800 or $1700. Sometimes you can even find it slightly less than that.

But $1000 for a $1900 list camera is unrealistic.

It's a good idea to limit your list of stores to places that have reputations that the community of photographers can trust.

An easy way to check for problems is to do a Google search, type the store name (or website name) and follow that with a word like "scam", "rip-off", "reviews", "problems", or "complaints".

In the case of your store... numerous such page hits come up on other forums, blogs, and elsewhere indicating reasons to be extremely concerned about this merchant. As the saying goes... if the deal seems too good to be true... it probably is.

You can buy the 6D either as a "body only" or with a kit lens. When you purchase it with the "kit" lens, the most common configuration is the Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM - which is actually a very nice lens. It retails for $1150 by itself. But when you buy the lens as a "kit" with the body, it increases the price of the total package by about $600.

You can find Canon's full list of "Authorized" dealers here: http://usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app/pdf/dealer/CanonAuthorizedDealers.pdf

This list changes regularly.

One more thing ... and this may be important to you. Many of the dealers will offer items marked as "USA" or "North America" and others marked as "Import" for the very same item. The import may have a lower price tag. When Canon themselves imports the items going through proper channels, it's marked as "USA". But there are 3rd parties who will find ways to import the gear on their own -- not going through normal channels -- and then put the items up for sale. These are built by Canon in the same factories, but because of how they were imported, they are technially "Gray Market" items. These items are usually not serviceable (no warranty service... and no service even outside warranty.) There may be exceptions but if you buy the items which are imported directly by Canon for distribution in "USA" or "North America" those items are warranted and serviceable -- no question. My personal feeling is that the "import" is usually not discounted nearly enough to offset the risk. I am not willing to forego warranty and serviceability in exchange for the opportunity to save $25.

Re: New guy looking for advice

cale_kat — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:59:07 GMT

There are very good prices for bargain hunters right here at the Canon Store. Search the refurbished cameras.

Also, there are good values to be found locally. You have to use your judgement but if you have good "people sense" you can find both price and convenience.

Among cameras, the 6D seems almost immune to criticism. That suggests excellent reliability.

Good luck.

Re: New guy looking for advice

cicopo — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 19:36:25 GMT

You haven't told us what you like to shoot or hope to shoot with a new set up but considering you'll need a good lens just to get started the 6D / 24-105 L IS is what I'd recommend as the starting point. (assuming you are changing systems). The 24-105 is versatile & sharp making it a very good kit lens.

Re: New guy looking for advice

itznj — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:15:13 GMT

JRhoffman: Looking to make the jump for a better body. I'm still always learning about photography but I know some people who have the 6D and I've used it and loved it haha.

Re: New guy looking for advice

itznj — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:16:03 GMT

Cool, I'll definitely check these out. Thanks for the advice.

Re: New guy looking for advice

itznj — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:17:07 GMT

That's always on my mind about being ripped off or scammed. I'll prob sell my stuff to fund the new project. Thank you.

Re: New guy looking for advice

itznj — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:17:40 GMT

"Among cameras, the 6D seems almost immune to criticism. That suggests excellent reliability."

I like the sound of that 🙂

Re: New guy looking for advice

itznj — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:19:29 GMT

I really like to shoot cars. Go to every event I possibly can haha. I mod cars as well so it's always fun to shoot cars when building them as well. Honestly though, I do shoot anything and everything, scenery, etc.

Re: New guy looking for advice

ebiggs1 — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:49:33 GMT

I am not one who subscribes to the notion a certain body will only shoot certain subjects. Yeah, there may be a small advantage with a niche subject like sports vs landscapes. But in the real world, you are not going to see this difference unless you are a pixel peeper.

Believe it or not but there was a time when we didn't have any of this. There was no AE, no IS, no AF, etc. and guess what we still got the photos!

You will love the 6D along with the 24-105mm f4 L from either of the places I suggested. Then stop reading the spec charts and go out and shoot.

Re: New guy looking for advice

itznj — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 22:00:45 GMT

You guys are awesome