topic Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Losing settings on power off except in Auto

FGT — Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:29:51 GMT

Hello

I recently upgraded from a T3i to the T7i.

I want the Program exposure setting to remain at a couple of ticks darker all the time. It resets when I power off the camera while in Program mode, the T3i did not do this. Is this a setting somewhere, I can't find it? Oddly if I change to Auto and power off it keeps the setting for Program.

Thank you

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

shadowsports — Thu, 13 Aug 2020 13:24:45 GMT

Greetings,

There might be an easier way, but I use one of my custom presets for this. I find this to be useful when I'm going between indoor / outdoor or shooting subjects with bright back lighting.

Also see page 196~197 of your manaual which providessome additional options.

T7I manual

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

kvbarkley — Thu, 13 Aug 2020 13:57:41 GMT

Rebels do not have custom presets.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

shadowsports — Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:05:17 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
Rebels do not have custom presets.

Thats horrible LoL... but now that you mention it.. I do remember that my T6s didn't have these on the selector dial... thanks kvbarkley.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

Waddizzle — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 00:16:27 GMT

@FGT wrote:
Hello

I recently upgraded from a T3i to the T7i.
I want the Program exposure setting to remain at a couple of ticks darker all the time. It resets when I power off the camera while in Program mode, the T3i did not do this. Is this a setting somewhere, I can't find it? Oddly if I change to Auto and power off it keeps the setting for Program.
Thank you

Of course, it "resets" to new settings after you turn it on. Program mode is a type of automatic mode, one with predictable behavior. It automatically measures the current exposure, and adjusts the settings to match based upon a published curve.

If you want the camera to retain the exposure settings after a power off / power on cycle, then use Manual mode.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

FGT — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 00:49:11 GMT

Nah, because if I adjust Program mode down a couple of ticks I can change locations and lighting and it doesn't remove that "setting" it keeps it where I had it. Only if I power off does it normalize. Plus T3i didn't reset. Why would they eliminate this capability when there are no custom modes in Rebel, it was kind of a cheat for a custom. At least they could have made it in the settings to keep or reset settings on exit. Maybe I should have gotten a Sony.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

kvbarkley — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 02:41:48 GMT

Now is the time to buy Sony. They have dropped their prices because of the competition from the R's.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

kvbarkley — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 03:33:23 GMT

My T6S remembers the exposure compensation after a power cycle. Have you tried using the Lock switch to see if that makes a difference?

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

FGT — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:52:34 GMT

Sorry "lock switch"? I don't see that anywhere. I tested a T7 and keeps the settings. Is this a bug with T7i maybe?

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

kvbarkley — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:31:50 GMT

Sorry, normally I look at the manuals, but can't since Canon USA is down. On my T6S there is a switch on the lower right called "Lock" It allows you to lock the controls so you don't inadvertently change them.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

FGT — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:56:26 GMT

Not on the Rebel that I can see.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

Waddizzle — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 16:39:50 GMT

@FGT wrote:
Nah, because if I adjust Program mode down a couple of ticks I can change locations and lighting and it doesn't remove that "setting" it keeps it where I had it. Only if I power off does it normalize. Plus T3i didn't reset. Why would they eliminate this capability when there are no custom modes in Rebel, it was kind of a cheat for a custom. At least they could have made it in the settings to keep or reset settings on exit. Maybe I should have gotten a Sony.

Yeah. I think you are mistaken. Tell us, What "settings" are changing? I have assumed that it is exposure.

Switch ISO out of Auto. Set it to 400. Program mode follows a specific exposure "program" formula to determine the exposure settings. It is always possible that Canon changed the curve, but I seriously doubt it.

BTW, your threat to buy a Sony is laughable. You're not the first person, nor the last, to do that. "If I don't get an answer, then I will go buy a Sony." Go for it, I say. If you're getting rid of your Canon, what is the point in continuing? Let's end this discussion Here and now. It is your call.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

Waddizzle — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 16:51:10 GMT

This is how Program mode works. The exposure settings will always fall somewhere along that dark line. Note this curve is for ISO 100. Different ISO values will follow the Exposure Triangle to come up with new exposure settings.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

kvbarkley — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:30:11 GMT

He is in P as far as I can tell, and it is exposure compensation that is changed.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

FGT — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 19:10:12 GMT

I wasn't threatening to buy a Sony, only commenting that maybe I should have.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

FGT — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 19:25:47 GMT

Thanks for trying to help but I'm convinced this is a bug. I will check to make sure my firmware is updated.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

wchettel — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 08:22:07 GMT

Hi FGT,

My camera is a Rebel SL2. I NEVER turn the power off except to change a lens, battery, or SD card. I don't notice any significant battery loss between uses. I think I'm set to Auto Power Off at 1 minute. I also don't know if there's a difference between physically turning the power off via the switch and Auto Power Off. But, I don't notice any settings lost between uses.

Re: Losing settings on power off except in Auto

Waddizzle — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:00:32 GMT

@FGT wrote:
Nah, because if I adjust Program mode down a couple of ticks I can change locations and lighting and it doesn't remove that "setting" it keeps it where I had it. Only if I power off does it normalize. Plus T3i didn't reset. Why would they eliminate this capability when there are no custom modes in Rebel, it was kind of a cheat for a custom. At least they could have made it in the settings to keep or reset settings on exit. Maybe I should have gotten a Sony.

Okay. And the very moment that you press the shutter to start the metering system at the new location it changes. Your previous settings are now gone. This is not a bug.