topic Re: 5D Mark III tethering to Lightroom in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

5D Mark III tethering to Lightroom

lkeeney — Sun, 05 Oct 2014 05:16:56 GMT

Is there a way to shoot with my 5D Mark III tethered to Lightroom on a Windows 8 computer and transfer only jpg images to Lightroom, and write the RAW files to the SD card?

Lawrence

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jrhoffman75 — Sun, 05 Oct 2014 12:01:03 GMT

Page 310 of manual. Not sure how it relates to Lightroom tethering.

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lkeeney — Sun, 05 Oct 2014 15:51:50 GMT

Thank you. I guess I will have to wait until my camera arrives to be able to read the manual.

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RobertTheFat — Sun, 05 Oct 2014 16:47:22 GMT

@lkeeney wrote:
Thank you. I guess I will have to wait until my camera arrives to be able to read the manual.

The manuals for all Canon cameras are available on their Web site to be downloaded and read by anybody.

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lkeeney — Sun, 05 Oct 2014 20:50:29 GMT

Thanks. I didn't realize that. I will check it out.

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ebiggs1 — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:35:15 GMT

"Is there a way to shoot with my 5D Mark III tethered to Lightroom on a Windows 8 computer and transfer only jpg images to Lightroom, and write the RAW files to the SD card?"

And the advantage or reason for doing this? Aren't all the files going to wind up on the computer anyway? Where I might add, they are much safer? I thether to LR a lot especially when I do school yearbook group shots. Personally, I prefer my files off the camera as soon as possibile.

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RobertTheFat — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:52:07 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
"Is there a way to shoot with my 5D Mark III tethered to Lightroom on a Windows 8 computer and transfer only jpg images to Lightroom, and write the RAW files to the SD card?"

And the advantage or reason for doing this? Aren't all the files going to wind up on the computer anyway? Where I might add, they are much safer? I thether to LR a lot especially when I do school yearbook group shots. Personally, I prefer my files off the camera as soon as possibile.

As a computer person, I agree with you, at least in principle. But I think the OP's position is that whatever else you do, it's best to capture the image as soon as possible and as close as possible to where it was formed. Sending it to the computer as well is great for redundancy, but sending it only to the computer involves a risk, however small, that it will be garbled in transit. That said, you're apt to notice it right away if something does go wrong. But it you used to be able to send the image to both places, why can't you do so anymore?

FWIW, I suspect that the answer may be that the computing power of the camera is somehow challenged by the extra transfer, thus slowing the process down.

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ebiggs1 — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:43:51 GMT

Bob from Boston,

OK, leave them on the CF card and computer. That should be as safe as it gets?

"EOS Utility > Preferences > Remote Shooting > Save also on the camera's memory card"

"... it will be garbled in transit."

OK, use a powered USB cabel.

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Skirball — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:47:40 GMT

I would assume that he's trying to speed up the time it takes to display the image in Lightroom. The best way I've found to speed it up, is to not use lightroom. EOS Utility is far faster at tethering.

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RobertTheFat — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:56:54 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
Bob from Boston,
?

OK, leave them on the CF card and computer. That should be as safe as it gets?

"EOS Utility > Preferences > Remote Shooting > Save also on the camera's memory card"

Well, yeah, but in another thread someone got Canon to admit that that option is not available in EOS Utility version 3. I assumed (perhaps erroneously) that this thread (i.e., using Lightroom instead) was started in reaction to that.

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ebiggs1 — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:05:04 GMT

Bob from Boston,

I suppose, I should say that is the way it works on a 1D Mk IV. I am guessing it is the same with a 5D Mk III. But you could try and make sure. The real key is, most people don't use, is a powered USB cabel. Probably because they have never heard of one.

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lkeeney — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:32:50 GMT

Thanks everyone for your responses.

I photograph a lot of ballet dancers in the studio doing jump shots. These dancers are very particular about the poses captured on the camera, and want each one to be perfect. They love the fact they can see the image on a large monitor as soon as I take the shot.

In the past I have been using top-of-the-lineOlympus cameras, and I spent a lot of time working out a system where the image would be displayed within 6 seconds. I found if the transfer delay was any more than this, the clients got a little frustrated waiting for the image to be displayed. I only got this relatively fast response by transferring only a jpg image.

I always transferred my RAW images to two seperate network connected storage units (one HP Smart Server and one Drobo) immediately following the photo shoot.

Now that I am switching to Canon I just wanted to get a similar, or faster, transfer speed. I am not sold on using Lightroom to display my images, and if the Canon software is faster, this is what I will use.

I just fugured that transferring the jpg only would be my only options to get a trasfer speed of 6 seconds or faster. I could wait intil tomorrow until my camera arrives and do a lot of trial and error testing, but I thought someone who has already done this could tell me in a few minutes how it is done.

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Skirball — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:59:30 GMT

Just install EOS Utility 3. It's far, far faster than Lightroom. I'm an avid user of Lightroom, and I wish the tethering were better because I'd prefer to use it. But I use EOS Utility for tethering, always.

As Bob noted, we just recently found out that they disabled the ability to record to camera and computer in the new version for some odd reason. So if this really bothers you then I recommend getting the older 2.xx version.

As to the powered cable. I've shot 10s of thousands of pics using EOS Utility and I've never had a single file corrupted. I use a standard USB to mini cable, like the one that came with the camera, and a cheapo 15 foor USB extender - putting me at close to 20 ft. Never had a single problem. Using a powered cable is unneccsary for these short lengths, IMHO.

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lkeeney — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:09:31 GMT

Thanks for the tip on getting the older version of the software.. Hopefully I can find a copy of the older version.

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RobertTheFat — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:19:08 GMT

@lkeeney wrote:
Thanks for the tip on getting the older version of the software.. Hopefully I can find a copy of the older version.

The older version is still readily available; the newer version is restricted to full-frame cameras and runs only under 64-bit operating systems. Actually, the older version is included in an installation of the newer version. It can then be invoked independently, as I described a day or two ago in another thread.

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Skirball — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:23:21 GMT

It should have been provided with your camera. Depending on when you bought your 5d3, EOS ver 3 wasn't out yet. Regardless, EOS 3 is currently only for full frame cameras - 1D, 5D, 6D. So everyone else is using 2.xx, and I'd think they'd provide both copies with new FF cameras.

Shouldn't be hard to find, online but the difficulty may be installing it. They use an "updater", instead of the full program which is only provided with new cameras. The updater actually actually the entire program, but it looks for a registry from an older version, as a means of protecting against software piracy. As if non-Canon users are trying to us EOS Utility. There are simple ways around this, but it's silly, because you legally have the right to use the program.

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/professional/professional_cameras/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_5d_mark_iii#DriversAndSoftware

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lkeeney — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:32:22 GMT

All of my questions may seem a little odd as I have never used a Canon camera before, and the 5D Mark III I ordered is supposed to be delivered tomorrow.

I guess I will just wait and see what software I receive, and hopefully the older version will come with the camera, and hopefully I can figure out how to install it. I was just thinking I could get a jump on learning how to tether my new camera before it arrived.

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Skirball — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:44:34 GMT

Congrats. It's a great camera, enjoy it.

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lkeeney — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:10:43 GMT

Thanks. I did a lot of research on the best camera for shooting fast action ballet in sometimes less than ideal lighting conditions, and I came to the conclusion that the 5D Mark III was the best camera (that I can afford) to do this type of photography. I just hope I made the right choice.

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RobertTheFat — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:04:42 GMT

@Skirball wrote:
It should have been provided with your camera. Depending on when you bought your 5d3, EOS ver 3 wasn't out yet. Regardless, EOS 3 is currently only for full frame cameras - 1D, 5D, 6D. So everyone else is using 2.xx, and I'd think they'd provide both copies with new FF cameras.

Shouldn't be hard to find, online but the difficulty may be installing it. They use an "updater", instead of the full program which is only provided with new cameras. The updater actually actually the entire program, but it looks for a registry from an older version, as a means of protecting against software piracy. As if non-Canon users are trying to us EOS Utility. There are simple ways around this, but it's silly, because you legally have the right to use the program.

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/professional/professional_cameras/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_5d_mark_iii#DriversAndSoftware

The installation is trivial. The CD one needs to get started has been available on-line ever since Canon's realization that many Windows 8 tablet users had no access to a CD reader. To download the new FF versions, you have to supply the serial number of a FF camera; the serial number of my 5D3 worked fine.

What isn't trivial is the operation of the camera and the software if you're totally new to Canon. The OP is a professional photographer and will certainly figure it all out. But there will be a learning curve.