topic Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

"Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Skip70 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 15:41:06 GMT

How do you use the HDR exposure features to allow the camera to create three RAW images (exposed, under-exposed, under-exposed)?

I am aware of the cameras ability to combine images for HDR, but it generates a JPEG, which I don't want since I will want to do further post-processing in RAW.
What I want is to use the slider on the exposure bar to pick my range of exposures but have the camera create three separate RAW images in quick succession (or where I can hit the shutter myself two more times without making manual adjustments.) I am very wary of ever touching the camera on the tripod when taking such exposures and often want all three to be in very quick succession.

Any help?

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Waddizzle — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 15:56:41 GMT

The short answer is don’t use the HDR functionality in the camera. It you want three RAW files, then capture three RAW files using AEB.

Are you using a tripod? If so, then setup your exposure increments. Use the shutter delay timer, and the entire sequence will be captured automatically.

If not, then use a very steady hand.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Stephen — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 15:58:57 GMT

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Skip70 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:04:51 GMT

Thanks. So, simply enoughL Use AEB to spread out the range of exposures and the camera will "know" to take the next three photos with each of those settings -- each requiring a shutter click.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Waddizzle — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:21:03 GMT

@Skip70 wrote:

Thanks. So, simply enoughL Use AEB to spread out the range of exposures and the camera will "know" to take the next three photos with each of those settings -- each requiring a shutter click.

The camera will not “know” anything. You will need to use the shutter delay timer and continuous drive mode.

[EDIT] Focus before you take the shot, and then disable AF. Do the same with your exposure. Find your exposure settings, and then dial them manually. Use M mode. Dial in a WB temperature, too.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

ebiggs1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:17:56 GMT

For what it's worth I never use the in camera HDR. I always use Adobe Lightroom or Photoshop. And most of the time I hand hold because unless its a planned HDR you probably won't have a tripod with you. Also, HDR is not limited to three images I use 5 sometimes.

I have nothing against tripods as they are. I have one that cost more than most people spend on their camera. But tripods outside of the studio are a nuisance and people generally don't carry a good decent tripod around with them. Learn how to hold your camera steady and still. It's a good thing to know.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

ebiggs1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:26:24 GMT

HDR when you least expect it. This shot is not possible with a single exposure. And it is hand held.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Waddizzle — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:38:41 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:

HDR when you least expect it. This shot is not possible with a single exposure. And it is hand held.

No one said a tripod was mandatory. BTW, my sample was also handheld.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Skip70 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 17:05:25 GMT

Okay, now I am confused. I understand AF, WB, etc. What has me confused it it seems you are saying I need to dial in EACH setting for each photo? I thought if I spread out the range of shots on the exposure compensation/AEB bar, it would make three exposures - however I choose to make them: shatter press or remove trigger. I don't see where the shutter delay timer has any needed place if I'm using a remote trigger. And why continuous mode when I only want three exposures?
Again, isn't the simplest method to spread the range on the AEB bar and simply take three successive photos?

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Skip70 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 17:11:14 GMT

But where this three RAW files your merged later in Lr or Photoshop or JHPEGS created in the camera? My point was that I don't want the latter.
I'm note sure how this is getting confusing. I simply want to take three compensated photos in RAW and alter larger them in Lr. I can't see to get or understand an answer about whether the camera will take three or I need to take three separately If the latter, it seems like I can do the in whatever way is best for me in the situation -- handheld with shutter or using a remote shutter release. Help?

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Skip70 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 17:13:24 GMT

I'd sure like to edit my own posts to correct some typos or clarify, but it does not allow me to do so. Sorry for the typos, but I have shoulder surgery and am typing with one hand.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

stevet1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 20:09:27 GMT

Skip70,

In addition to single shot mode (1 click - 1 shot), your camera will likely also have a high-speed continuous shooting mode where it takes 12 shots or 15 shots or whatever in a second and also a low-speed continuous mode, where it will take 3 shots in relatively quick succession with one press of the shutter button. You may have to hold down the shutter button while it takes those 3 shots.

Steve Thomas

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Waddizzle — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:43:44 GMT

The exposure settings define what will be used for the first image. Exposure settings for subsequent images will have their exposure settings defined by your AEC seeings and your initial exposure settings.

Just remember this, using the shutter delay timer will automatically fire the entire sequence that you have pre-defined. Or, you could fire the shutter for each capture one at a time. I prefer the camera capturing the entire sequence automatically.

This is easier to understand with trying it out and experimenting with how it works. There are a couple of “AHA” moments waiting for you.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

stevet1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 23:45:22 GMT

Skip,

When your camera, or post-production computer software takes 3 images and merges them into an HDR image, the resulting output is a jpeg image.

That's just the way it is.

If that's not what you want, then don't use HDR.

Steve Thomas

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

ebiggs1 — Mon, 12 Aug 2024 14:41:41 GMT

The little down arrow at the top right of your post has an edit drop down. Simply click it.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

ebiggs1 — Mon, 12 Aug 2024 14:45:06 GMT

"No one said a tripod was mandatory."

So ? 🤔

"BTW, my sample was also handheld."

Good for you! 😊

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Skip70 — Mon, 12 Aug 2024 15:23:48 GMT

Yes, I'm aware of that. Doesn't work most of the time. I'll keep trying.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Skip70 — Mon, 12 Aug 2024 15:27:31 GMT

I made a point of saying I did not want to do HDR in the camera for that reason. However, my understanding is that it is not correct that post processing merge results in aJPEG. In Lightroom on a Mac, it results in a DNG, which is compressed to a degree but is equivalent to RAW and is editable. It is not JPEG.

Re: "Manual" HDR (minting RAW file). 6D Mii

Waddizzle — Mon, 12 Aug 2024 21:26:55 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:

"No one said a tripod was mandatory."

So ? 🤔

"BTW, my sample was also handheld."

Good for you! 😊

So, why bring it up? Obviously, it must be important to you. Have a nice day.