topic Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:13:18 GMT

Hi!

I understand that with the R10, focus stacking and bracketing is only available using Autofocus, but can my camera be in (M) manual mode otherwise?

Many thanks in advance!

Re: R10 Focus bracketing/stacking

FloridaDrafter — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:33:06 GMT

@Mike79 wrote:

Hi!

I understand that with the R10, focus stacking and bracketing is only available using Autofocus, but can my camera be in (M) manual mode otherwise?

Hello, Mike, and welcome to the forum!

Although I don't have the R10, you should be able to work in manual mode. That's basically how it works anyway, even if you are in Tv or Av. The settings for the first exposure (shutter, aperture, ISO) will be what is used for the whole set. The only thing that changes during the stack is the focal plane. If any element of the exposure triangle changes during the capture, it will not process.

Newton

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

p4pictures — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:11:53 GMT

I have the EOS R10, yes the camera can be set to manual exposure when doing focus bracketing (focus stacking), but needs to be set to autofocus.

I have a simple tip to overcome the AF issue though. If you reconfigure the shutter button to only be exposure metering, not AF then the AF-ON button is the AF activation button. With this setup, I manually prefocus the lens where I want to start from, and start the sequence by pressing the shutter. Since the shutter is no longer activating AF, but autofocus is still active then focus bracketing works just fine. For RF/RF-S lenses you might need to look at the settings to enable electronic full-time MF or lens electronic MF so you can focus the lens while AF is active but not focussing.

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Waddizzle — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 13:09:09 GMT

The shooting modes, such as M, only control the exposure. It’s completely independent of AF.

Re: R10 Focus bracketing/stacking

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:06:11 GMT

Thank you!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:06:35 GMT

Thank you!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:27:23 GMT

Your solution is exactly what I want - I didn't mention it, but yes, I want to initially focus manually (trusting my eyes to be more accurate than AF, initially).

Yes, I'll reconfigure to back button focus (AF-ON), thank you.

The scenario would be doing macro work outdoors, without a tripod, attempting to photograph insects - so the question becomes, do I set the lens to manual focus, focus on the subject, and very carefully re-set the lens to autofocus, then, while pressing the AF-ON button, depress the shutter button? I'm thinking that the movement of having to change from manual focus to autofocus on the lens would disturb my initial manual focusing. Again, this is without tripod, without focusing rail, insect which is not in hibernation... how would you handle that, please?

Bushels of thanks for your educational, caring replies.

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:00:06 GMT

Also this - My R10 has firmware 1.3.1. When I opened my camera to update it to v 1.5.1, the camera informed me that "Memory card containing firmware is required to update". So, okay, apparently I need to download the update to my W10 laptop, then "Send to" the camera's memory card. I downloaded the firmware to my laptop, and I found it as anorange traffic pylon/cone, and it wouldn't open for me to send it to the memory card. The file is actually a "zip" file: "EOSr10-v150-win.zip".

A solution, please.

Many thanks!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

p4pictures — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:54:00 GMT

If you use the back button AF trick, then the you press the AF-ON button to initially focus using your thumb, then release it. Your subject should be in focus and you don't need to move any switches on the lens. Now you can move the camera slightly further back from the subject which ensures the the first frame in the stack is just in front of the subject and subsequent ones increment the focus through the subject. To start bracketing just press the shutter button.

Best time of day for insects is the cool mornings before they get fully warmed up and animated.

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

p4pictures — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:59:30 GMT

It's a zip file when you download the windows version, and a Mac compressed disk image for the mac version.

The key is you need to open that zip file and find the firmware file inside, it will have the extension .FIR

Copy this .FIR file to the root folder on the memory card. Then put the card back in the camera.

Here's screenshot of the SD card on my Mac with firmware for EOS R6 and EOS R6 Mark II in the root folder. If you put them in a sub folder the camera cannot access them.

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:16:30 GMT

Clever, thanks!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:55:53 GMT

I was finally able to see the FIR file listed among Explorer downloads - when I click on it, my only options are Open, Cut, Copy, Delete and Properties.

There is no "Send to" for me to send it to the SD card, and it won't "Open".

I clicked on "Copy" (I don't know where it copies to) figuring that I can get it to copy to the SD card - eventually.......

So I'm still stuck. Stuck sucks.

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

SamanthaW — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:00:52 GMT

Just popping in with a suggestion!

Are you able to open your downloads folder and in a separate explorer window open the SD card's storage? If yes, you might be able to click and drag the file from your downloads directly to the root folder for the SD card!

Hope this helps!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

p4pictures — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:22:06 GMT

You need to copy the file - you did that already above

then open the SD drive in explorer and select the root folder then right click and select paste to paste the copied file

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:39:00 GMT

As instructed, inserted SD card into card reader, found it as EOS_Digital (E:)

Under that is:

DCIM

100 CANON

CANONMSC

MISC

How to access the Root Folder from all of that, please.

Thanks for caring!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:44:04 GMT

Many thanks for popping in -

I inserted the card into a reader, found it at Explorer as follows:

EOS_Digital (E:)

DCIM

100 CANON

CanonMSC

MISC

So - please advise how to access the "Root folder", into which I should try to send the latest firmware update, which is supposedly a zip file.

Many thanks!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

FloridaDrafter — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:29:38 GMT

@Mike79 wrote:
I inserted the card into a reader, found it at Explorer as follows:

EOS_Digital (E:) <=== ROOT DIRECTORY

DCIM

100 CANON

CanonMSC

MISC

So - please advise how to access the "Root folder", into which I should try to send the latest firmware update, which is supposedly a zip file.

Many thanks!

First, the ZIP file is a container that has a PDF with install instructions AND the firmware for your camera. Windows treats it like a folder once you click it.

Start by double clicking the eosr10-v150-win.zip file. It should open and show the files (see attached).

Right click the R1015000.FIR and select "Copy" (see attached).

Insert your card in the reader and you should see the card. It will already be in the "Root" and show folders (see attached). Just use your pick button or tap into an open area, which will be the Root, just to insure that you are indeed in the root and not one of the folders. Now just "Right click" and select "Paste".

After the transfer, you should see this.

Newton

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Thu, 13 Jun 2024 03:26:10 GMT

This fellow (south) Floridian (computer non-techy, obviously) has followed your clear/complete/explicit instructions to the extent of MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

MANY thanks for the time and effort you put into this, just for li'l ol' me!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

Mike79 — Thu, 13 Jun 2024 03:28:30 GMT

Many thanks.

I just needed a little more "show and tell" to get me going.

Firmware is updated! Whoopee!!

Re: EOS R10 Focus bracketing/stacking in M mode

FloridaDrafter — Thu, 13 Jun 2024 04:54:12 GMT

You are welcome, Mike.

Newton