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Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

ibskiing — Thu, 09 May 2024 13:25:15 GMT

Hello,

I currently own a Canon D80 with the following lens:

Canon EF-S 18-135mm F/3.5-5.6
Canon EF 70-300mm F/4-5.6
Sigma 200-600mm F/5-6.3

I would like a 2nd body that is comparable to my D80, but an upgrade even slight would be preferable. I shoot primarily wildlife and I am going on an African safari in June, planning to take my 18-135 and my Sigma 200-600. Everything I have read suggested having two camera bodies and not trying to switch lens on a safari due to the dust. I would like to stay under $1,000 if possible. Definitely looking for something that would have better light gathering capability.

I believe my Sigma is full frame compatible along with my 70-300. Would you recommend a used full frame or one of the new more affordable mirrorless cameras, like the Canon RP. I might even step up to the R8, which I have found for just over $1,000.

Thanks, Jim

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

deebatman316 — Thu, 09 May 2024 13:39:46 GMT

What are the FULL NAMES of the lenses you own. 3rd Party lenses may have compatability problems with newer cameras. Also NOT all Canon EF or EF-S lenses support all features on EOS R series cameras. This is also true with EOS DSLR cameras too.

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

ibskiing — Thu, 09 May 2024 14:13:06 GMT

When you say full names, not sure I can add much more when looking at the lens. The Sigma is the contempory version: 150-600mm 1:5-6.3 DG095. The Canon is the white lens: EF 70-300mm 1:4-5.6 L IS USM, Ultrasonic.

Would the R7 be any better or pose the same issues. I read the R7 battery is better, low light would not be as good, I guess I would have more reach with the crop sensor.

Thanks, Jim

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

ebiggs1 — Thu, 09 May 2024 14:14:19 GMT

"I would like a 2nd body that is comparable to my D80 ..."

Logical choice is the D90. It will work in seamlessly with your current D80 and is an upgrade. It is Canon's best effort in a DSLR crop format camera.

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

deebatman316 — Thu, 09 May 2024 14:21:31 GMT

Some of the Canon lenses you listed have multiple revisions to them. The EF-S 18-135mm F/3.5-5.6 lens has had 3 revisions of it. The Full name of Canon brand lenses is located on the outer ring. Or if you remove the lens cap on the outer edge.

Here is a picture of an example picture of a lens. This may NOT be your exact lens. So please provide the full name of yours.

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

ibskiing — Thu, 09 May 2024 14:29:31 GMT

Ok, that is what I added on the Sigma and Canon 70-300 (the picture you have is my lens). I did not add the EF-S name as it would not be compatible with a full frame, but is name is: EF-S 18-135mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS USM

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

deebatman316 — Thu, 09 May 2024 14:42:34 GMT

The R7 is an APS-C camera. EF-S lenses can be adapted to Full Frame bodies the image sensor capacity is reduced by a factor of 2.56x. For instance the R5 is 45 megapixels in Full Frame mode but in APS-C its only 17.6 megapixels. That's why its not best to use APS-C lenses on a Full Frame EOS R series camera. Now Full Frame DSLRs are INCOMPATIBLE with EF-S lenses. They won't even mount to a Full Frame DSLR or EOS AF SLR.

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

ibskiing — Thu, 09 May 2024 15:46:22 GMT

Thanks I was only thinking of using the Sigma and the my Canon EF 70-300 on the R8. I like the idea of a newer model so I can eventually buy some better dedicated lens. I read where several people have used the R8 with the my Sigma lens and said they get great results.

I was thinking full frame for a second camera would be nice and give me better low light capability and again I would probably upgrade the lens at some point.

Short term I am looking for a 2nd camera body for my Safari. If I got the R7 or 8, I would put the Sigma lens on that camera with an adapter and put my EF-S lens on my D80.

Do you see an issue with that or do you have a better suggestion.

Thanks, Jim

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

March411 — Thu, 09 May 2024 15:56:48 GMT

The 90D would make a nice upgrade as well as the R6 MII, I own both. The Sigma will be great on either body but Sigma suggests ensuring the firmware is up to date using their dock when mounting their lenses on an R body. With the Canon Adapter the R6 MII will adjust/reduce the crop automatically for most lenses. I use three lens specific to APS-C on the R6 with the Canon adapter that produce beautiful images, one is the 35mm macro S and two Sigma lenses.

When researching the purchase of another body the R7 was on the bucket list but the rolling shutter challenges and improved AF pushed me to the R6.

Which ever way you go go luck on the new body.

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

ebiggs1 — Fri, 10 May 2024 14:40:23 GMT

"Now Full Frame DSLRs are INCOMPATIBLE with EF-S lenses. They won't even mount to a Full Frame DSLR ..."

As a practical rule, yes, but it can be done and has been by many people.

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

deebatman316 — Fri, 10 May 2024 14:42:48 GMT

Yes I know EF-S lenses can be modified to mount on Full Frame cameras. But I would NOT recommend it. This is a mode of unsupported mode of operation.

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

March411 — Fri, 10 May 2024 15:01:20 GMT

As someone that has used the EF-S in a practical application on R bodies the results been quite pleasing. These images were shot on the R6 MK II with a EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM (Canon Adapter) in total darkness except for fill lighting. I have also used in on the R50 with the same results. AF works as well as the RF lenses.Even with the reduced MP you can obtain some incredible images.

Handheld f8 - 1/60 - ISO 6400

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

shadowsports — Fri, 10 May 2024 15:28:04 GMT

Greetings,

With a $1k budget, and the desire for additional light gathering capability, the R8 is a clear winner. It checks the most "boxes". It will also allow your FF lenses to shine.

I would recommend a monopod to help support the heavier adapted lenses while you sit for extended periods.

Other helpful items:

Plenty of spare batteries and memory cards.

An air puffer to blow away loose dust.

Re: Want a 2nd Canon Body - Upgrade suggestions from EOS 80D

ebiggs1 — Fri, 10 May 2024 18:46:06 GMT

“Yes I know EF-S lenses can be modified to mount on …”

Your use of bold and all caps indicates that it is impossible. If you make absolute statements make sure you are accurate which is how it come across.