topic Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800 in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

EOS 800D S-RAW files won't work with Adobe Lightroom denoise feature

caelicol13 — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 14:27:20 GMT

Some RAW files from my EOS 800 don't work with Lightroom Classic denoise feature. What I found in Lightroom is that denoise doesn't work with Canon S-RAW file types. Here's the adobe website.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/enhance-details.html

Unsupported file formats for Raw Details

Raw Details does not apply to the following types of source images:

Non-raw files such as a JPEGs, TIFFs, and HEICs
Apple ProRaw DNGs
Linear DNGs (including HDR and pano DNG images previously created inside Lightroom and Camera Raw)
DNG proxies and Smart Previews
Monochrome raw files (such as Leica M MONOCHROM)
Four-color cameras
Foveon sensor images
Fujifilm cameras with SR, EXR, or 2x4 mosaic sensors.
Canon S-RAW/M-RAW files
Nikon small raw files

I had to go to Rawdigger to find out the files were S-RAW. Where does this get set in the menus? Mosaic Data shows as YES when I check the metadata on the DNG file.

Image quality was set to RAW. Here's another reference I used to try to figure this out: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/denoise-ai-not-working-with-my-cr2-files/td-p/13790251

Thanks for anyone's help.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

Peter — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:46:34 GMT

sRAW and mRAW are not raw files, even if they are CR2 files.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

kvbarkley — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:46:44 GMT

Assuming you have an 800D, you cannot set SRaw for that camera.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

caelicol13 — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:49:53 GMT

I get that's why the files are not working with Lightroom denoise feature. What I don't get is where in the menu is that set, and how do I get back to straight RAW?

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

Peter — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:53:18 GMT

You are correct. I had to download the manual.

Is it a 800D?

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

caelicol13 — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:53:43 GMT

That's interesting, because Dawdigger says the file is an SRAW. If I can't set it, what is going on?

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

Peter — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:55:26 GMT

Share a CR2 file. Use a filehost. I am awake five more minutes.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

caelicol13 — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:56:33 GMT

It is an 800D. So if I can't set it, what is Lightroom complaining about? Mosaic = yes, so it should be a full file.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

caelicol13 — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 23:03:19 GMT

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2hyw11vtfki8unx9na2e8/IMG_4560.CR2?rlkey=40c67blpdzynfl99t4oxzaeve&dl=0

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

Peter — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 23:12:54 GMT

That is RAW, yes.

I am not a Lightroom user so some of the others may be able to answer your other question.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

caelicol13 — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 23:24:55 GMT

Thanks for looking - this has become extraordinarily frustrating since I can't figure out which side the issue is on - Canon or Adobe.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

FloridaDrafter — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 02:04:46 GMT

@caelicol13 wrote:
"this has become extraordinarily frustrating since I can't figure out which side the issue is on - Canon or Adobe."

At this point in time, I would say Adobe. This camera has been around a while, so Adobe should be able to fully use the CR2 it produces by now, if it's up to date. However, I know Canon changed something in the CR2 format for the T7i/800D because my wife bought it in 2017 and I had to download a codec pack to get Windows 10 to view the Raw thumbnails in file explorer. They worked fine in DPP 4, but I always keep it updated anyway. At that time, I was using a 7D mark II and 5D mark IV, which both produced CR2 files, and Windows could view both of the Raw files from those, but not the ones from the T7i/800D. The codec pack worked great and integrated into file explorer so I could preview the Raw CR2's from the T7i and later on, the newer CR3's.

EDITED: To remove redundant information 😁

Newton

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

p4pictures — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 17:01:43 GMT

I have downloaded the file you provided. I am using the latest version of Lightroom and if I import your .CR2 image it shows as 4000 x 6000 pixels - so definitely full resolution not sRAW, and more importantly I can use the Denoise function just perfectly.

I am using Lightroom Classic 13.1 with Adobe Camera RAW 16.1 on a Mac.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

caelicol13 — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 01:46:39 GMT

Thank you very much - I think this points so something with my Adobe setup. Time to see what I can get from Adobe - the Canon community response has been outstanding.

Re: Canon S-RAW files on EOS 800

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:33:39 GMT

Same result as Brian using a Windows PC.

Re: EOS 800D S-RAW files won't work with Adobe Lightroom denoise feature

caelicol13 — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 18:00:05 GMT

I uninstalled and reinstalled Lightroom, and I can now use the denoise feature. Thanks to everyone who took the time to look at this. Not my idea of how to solve things, and no explanation for what exactly went wrong with Lightroom, but that part is done.