topic Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

Johngiat56 — Thu, 15 Jun 2023 21:49:06 GMT

I want to take a self portrait but the R5 will not focus with the 10 second timer.

The settings: Timer 10 seconds. People. Eye Detect. One shot mode.

I even tried "Continuous Focus" thinking that might work, but no success.

Any suggestions re my settings - or is it normal, as I am reading elsewhere that the camera truly will not focus when the 10 second timer is used?

John

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

Waddizzle — Fri, 16 Jun 2023 01:48:12 GMT

I have never tried or tested it, but it seems like the shutter delay timer locks both exposure and focus when it is initiated. This is similar to how One Shot AF mode works when the shutter delay timer has not been enabled.

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

Tronhard — Fri, 16 Jun 2023 03:12:26 GMT

If you want to take a self portrait with the camera using eye detect, then I suggest using a cable or electronic remote device. The self timer trips the shutter but does not cause the camera to autodetect eyes. So to do so, you need to have focus enabled for the shutter button, half press the remote to get focus and then fully press to take the shot.
Alternatively, do it the old school way. Manually pre-focus the camera on a proxy object where your face will be with sufficient DoF to cover your whole face. Use the 10sec timer to activate the camera and during that time switch places with the proxy device.

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

tai-stik — Thu, 07 Sep 2023 22:50:59 GMT

Is there a ticket to address this issue at some point? It seems like it should be a pretty easy fix, and given Canon's reputation as a front runner in photography, I would expect them to soon.

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

Waddizzle — Fri, 08 Sep 2023 12:48:34 GMT

@tai-stik wrote:
Is there a ticket to address this issue at some point? It seems like it should be a pretty easy fix, and given Canon's reputation as a front runner in photography, I would expect them to soon.

It is not an issue. It is how cameras work. They do not refocus during shutter delay mode.

If you still disagree and feel that there is a need to escalate and bring this topic to Canon’s attention, then I suggest that you setup a service ticket for your issue. These forums are not Canon Service or Support.

https://www.usa.canon.com/support/service-and-repair

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

shadowsports — Fri, 08 Sep 2023 14:11:05 GMT

Greetings,

I don't feel this is a bug either. You can leave feedback and make a feature quest on the Canon USA website.

Select feedback, > then product

I like Trevors suggestion. A bluetooth controller could be used for this and allow the AF to be engaged. You could also use a mobile device and shoot tethered.😀

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

tai-stik — Fri, 08 Sep 2023 18:05:48 GMT

Thanks for the replies. Here are my thoughts:

- A user would like to take a self portrait, wide open, and does not have a remote cable, nor the time (or possibly internet connection) to setup with the remote app. In my case, it is for shooting a youtube thumbnail, so I am composing with a monitor on the camera or the R5's little screen.

Whether this is a bug (feature existed before etc) or new feature, I feel this is a new and growing use case that Canon should support. Thank you for the link to submit a ticket.

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

dreysi — Sat, 06 Jan 2024 02:12:59 GMT

I am here because I thought that this should be common sense to have this enabled. I mean instead of being able to set the timer and have it track me till the shutter goes off I'm supposed to use their 1.5 start buggy app or buy a remote which over time can wear out my usb port not thanks. Yes I will submit a feature request and hope everyone has a great new year!

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

Waddizzle — Sat, 06 Jan 2024 16:26:42 GMT

@dreysi wrote:
I am here because I thought that this should be common sense to have this enabled. I mean instead of being able to set the timer and have it track me till the shutter goes off I'm supposed to use their 1.5 start buggy app or buy a remote which over time can wear out my usb port not thanks. Yes I will submit a feature request and hope everyone has a great new year!

It is not a bug. This is how cameras have worked for decades, many decades. If you have a smart phone, then you can probably use Canon Connect with a Bluetooth connection to take photos.

The camera does not track you during the countdown phase because the AF system is idle. No one is pressing a button to activate the AF system, even if the camera is in AF Servo mode.

You can activate AF remotely with your smart device just as if you were operating the camera directly. The camera is not omnipotent. YOU must tell it where to focus.

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

shadowsports — Sun, 07 Jan 2024 01:53:50 GMT

What Waddizzle said is correct. Remotes can be wired or wireless. A bluetooth remote works up to about 20ft

This one will focus and release the shutter

I bought this one nearly 7 yrs ago. It will only release the shutter.

Canon makes one as well

These days, I use the CC App, or just compose my shot, focus manually and use the self timer.

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

dreysi — Sun, 07 Jan 2024 21:39:45 GMT

Hey that's fair and makes sense cheers for your response. There are as you say solutions out there, the app is not as bad as it used to be, so i'll go that route, gotta give em credit for improving that. Now that I have a handle on the app connection quirks it will be easy peasy. Thanks mate and thanks to @shadowsports below for your help.

Re: EOS R5 Eye Detect does not work with self timer

jhphotos — Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:48:23 GMT

I tried yesterday real quick before a client came, but with my remote it came out all blurry. I realized I have the battery saver on, which I suspect is the issue. Going to try it again today and will report back after troubleshooting settings!