topic Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment? in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

kcendrow — Thu, 26 Oct 2023 12:09:11 GMT

I'm looking to get into a full frame. THE EOS R with the 24-105 lens kit looks to be an excellent choice. I just read the Canon is fazing out the the EOS R with service good until 2029. Is this true? Is this a good investment?

Re: EOS R

shadowsports — Thu, 26 Oct 2023 03:23:40 GMT

The EOS R was Canon's first mirrorless endeavor. It had some revolutionary features and put Canon into the mirrorless game. Like any camera it did many things very well and some things not so good. EVF isn't the fastest or best, Battery life just ok. Video has a 1.4x crop. The touch bar.. Some were ok with it, others not. We've not seen another camera with one since.

Some dubbed it the 5D5 that never was. I'd buy it over the RP. From a service life perspective, 2029 sounds about right (approx 10 yrs).

How to decide. What type of photography are you looking to do? How much photography experience do you have? Do you own a camera now, any lenses? Finally, do you have a budget?

Re: EOS R

kcendrow — Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:40:00 GMT

I have a T2i now and looking to get a full frame. My photography interest is people portrait and nature. I’ll make prints b/w or color I’m not interested in video. I have some lens. Thx for your advise.

Re: EOS R

rs-eos — Thu, 26 Oct 2023 12:00:34 GMT

We'd still need your budget though to make recommendations. A newer R-series full frame camera would be the EOS R8 (body only would be around $1,300 - on a bit of a sale at least at B&H Photo).

I'm assuming the lens you're speaking about is the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS which costs around $400. So $1,700 for an "R8 Kit" vs around $1,200 for the EOS RP Kit you've found. Is that extra $500 worth it? Maybe, but you'd need to be the judge of that.

Personally, I'd probably invest the extra $500. However, a better move perhaps would be to apply that towards a better lens or a second lens for use with the EOS RP.

Re: EOS R

kcendrow — Thu, 26 Oct 2023 12:59:36 GMT

Thanks. The R kit i found is $1,200 and that matches my price point. I understand a better lens would be better as f4 may not be the quickest. I believe I would need an adapter to fit my other lens on the R so I'll have to consider that cost.

Re: EOS R

shadowsports — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:06:47 GMT

Greetings,

You'll be fine with the f4 to start. Check the canon refurbished store for an EF to EOS R adapter. Also budget for a few memory cards and at least one additional battery. I also put a clear protective lens filter on every lens I own but this is optional. Be sure to post some photos for us after you take your camera out 🙂

Re: EOS R

rs-eos — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:49:31 GMT

While f/4 is indeed not the widest of apertures, one thing to note is that it would be constant aperture across the entire zoom range. I personally mostly use primes, but for zoom lens, I try to avoid variable aperture ones at all costs.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

kcendrow — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 22:39:02 GMT

Ok, so digging a little deeper the price i was looking at was not for the R but for the RP. It's not what I'm looking for. Instead the R7 seems to fit the bill except that's it's not a full frame instead it's a crop frame but has APS-C format and 32 mpixels. I'm shooting portraits and landscape possible kids sporting event and would like to make large prints, not so interested in video. I'm looking at the R7 kit with 18-150 lens. Is it just a matter of adjusting lens to achieve a full frame, example I read 50mm will give same angle as 80mm? Any reviews of the R7 would be appreciated. Thx

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

John_SD — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 23:10:42 GMT

No, the EOS R is not a good investment, and its touch bar, which was so glitchy and unpopular that it has never been used on any other succeeding Canon camera, will drive you crazy. Avoid it.

About 3 years ago, I purchased the RP as an entry into both mirrorless and full frame. It has served me well, but I can't recommend it today. If you are wanting an entry level FF Canon, then you should get the EOS R8. That is the accepted entry point into Canon's FF line now. And I think you'll find that the price is right.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

shadowsports — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 14:45:01 GMT

Greetings,
Sounds like you are getting closer to a decsion. R8 or R7. I am partial to full frame. That doesn't mean the R7 isn't a nice camera. Its a great camera. I would struggle if asked to choose between the two.

If comparing to the R7, the R8 has a more simple design from a controls standpoint. It's slightly smaller in the hands and some feel it's lack of breadth doesn't offer the ergonomic grippiness of a larger body. Its on the compact side and can be dwarfed by an adapter or if its being used with lenses of longer focal lengths.

While the R8 has more features, the R7 wins in overall value. They were manufactured about 15 months apart. The R7 is great for sports and wildlife. Its currently the top end of the APS-C line up. Dynamic range is good, but not great. Its got a larger battery.

With the R8 you get a fullframe sensor, better ISO performance, and almost double the number of AF points. Video performance is a little stronger to. You will also get better subject background separation over an APS-C format. A downside, its got a smaller battery.

I understand the challenges balancing budget with features. For portraits, a full frame camera is desirable. The R7 is a good option for wildlife. If you will shoot portraits more often R8, if wildlife, the R7. I'd visit BestBuy or a local camera store before buying. Hold each camera and see which feels better to you. Canon body's have the best ergonomics. Performance is obviously important too, but a camera has to feel right in your hands. Unless you're buying used or from a non-authorized dealer (not recommended) both body's are slightly above your stated budget. This is a good time of year to be camera shopping. Black Friday next week and Christmas are both in full swing.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

kcendrow — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 17:18:33 GMT

Thanks lots of great info here including going to BestBuy. I've come across a R5 for sale and thought that would be a good full frame solution. Do you have an opinion on the R5?

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

shadowsports — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 12:31:05 GMT

Kcendrow,

Help us understand. Your budget just went from $1200 - $1300 up to about $3399.... even used you are at double the price for an R5. Please do your research. Establish a budget and stick with it.

What is the budget? Really. We've jumped from the R to an RP deal (your mistake), then to the R7 and R8. Now your asking about the R5. Let stay focused. (Literally) 😄.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

kcendrow — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 02:37:10 GMT

well i know but i found a deal for the r5 that fits just beyond my estimated budget.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

shadowsports — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 12:42:46 GMT

Greetings,

There is always going to be another deal. Another camera, lens or accessory. You can procrastinate yourself right out of buying a camera. Where you buy can be as important as what you buy. I recommend a reputable dealer, an authorized Canon reseller. Buying from another source or party can be risky. Suddenly, that good deal isn't so good. Be mindful of this. Photography is not an inexpensive hobby. Like many things, you get what you pay for.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

rs-eos — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 13:02:36 GMT

While prices are coming down, be aware that when purching higher-end cameras, you'd need to invest in higher-end memory cards. One of the slots in the EOS R5 uses CFexpress which have a higher cost than UHS-II SD cards. Thus, even though you may be right at budget for the R5 itself, don't forget the extra cost for required accessories.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

kcendrow — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 16:13:56 GMT

I hear ya. I've asked for the serial number to double check, it's starting to look risky.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

shadowsports — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 16:22:12 GMT

Please avoid non authorized resellers and sellers offering "kits" or "Everything you need" to start shooting. These are going to be the profiteers peddling grey market or garage refurbished gear.

Re: Is the EOS R being phased out? Is it a good investment?

rs-eos — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 17:20:01 GMT

Do visit Canon's Where to Buy page. On there you can then download the current Canon Authorized Dealer PDF. If the company you're purchasing from isn't on that list, don't purchase.

Important: While amazon.com is listed on there, you have additionally take extra care when purchasing. The "Sold By" information needs to be an authorized Canon reseller. Many times, the seller won't be.

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